Actually, quite a few of the Frejus Tour de Frace bikes came w/Simplex derailleurs as original equipment, as the TdF was considered the second tier bike in the Frejus line.
Dave Patrick Chelsea, Michigan
-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of Bikerdaver@aol.com Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 6:31 PM To: haxixe@gmail.com; marcgarcia80@ameritech.net Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]frejus tour de france
In a message dated 8/14/2004 5:44:51 PM PST, haxixe@gmail.com writes: Interesting find. The Campagnolo freewheel is REALLY out of place with the other components. Strange. Sure it's a Campy? Kurt Sperry Bellingham WA
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 14:25:31 -0700 (PDT), marc garcia
<marcgarcia80@ameritech.net> wrote:
> well today I went to the local bike co-op and picked up a lime greenish
colored frejus. I'm assuming it's a tour de france model. I would like some
info
if you anyone can provide it. I checked the archives and I see it's
difficult
to date these. Here's the breakdown of the bike I picked up today.
>
> The saddle is branded Frejus, tag says Italia regis 30024 It's a bit hard
but in decent shape and I think I can save it.
> The cottered cranks and headset are both badged frejus.
> The frame and fork have campy dropouts, chromed stays and part of the
fork.
the lugs on the head tube are chromed but plain. It's made of columbus
tubing
but the decal does not match any of those on the CR columbus site. There is
a
1950 tour de france logo on the seat tube and from what I read this does not
nescesarily mean it's from the 50's. There is a serial number on the seat
tube: 95030 The bottom bracket has the following stamped into the bottom of
it:
T.d.F 54 I didn't read about anyone mentioning a stamp like this, could this
mean the bike is from 1954?
>
> The rear derailleur is a campy turismo, not a gran turismo, it looks like
a
gran sport. The shifters are campy clamp on, there is also a campy cable
guide. The front derailleur is a simplex, i'm assuming a replacement. Would
it
have had a campy push rod front derailleur? The wheels are sew ups, mavic
red
label rims laced to campy hubs, winged logo with campagnolo underneath.
Campy
freewheel as well. When I saw the brakes I thought they were universal but
they
are alloy balilla sidepulls. The levers still have the hoods with some of
the
colored logo still. The levers have quick releases. The stem and bars are
ambrosia champions.
>
> It's in overall decent shape. The paint has scratches but it still shines
nicely. The chrome is decent, fork needs to be rechromed. I would appreciate
any info about this bike. Where was the TDF in the frejus line up? I paid
175.00
for it, was this a fair price. I will post some pictures later. thanks
again.
> marc garcia
> chicago IL
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Marc-
I agree withy Kurt in that the Campy FW is definitely out of place as far as
the rest of the bike goes, but from your description, it sounds like you
have
a real nice find. I also agree with your observation that the front
derailluer
was not originally a simplex, and I would consider the campy original
gran-sport as a correct replacement.
cheers-
Dave Anderson
Cut Bank MT