[CR]Team Raleigh on Ebay or phone Kneteman

(Example: Framebuilders:Tony Beek)

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 00:08:59 +0200 (MEST)
From: "kim klakow" <Akimbo71@gmx.net>
To: Hughethornton@aol.com
References: <8b.15b51202.2e81f968@aol.com>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: [CR]Team Raleigh on Ebay or phone Kneteman

doesn´t anyone know Kneteman on this list? Brett? he should know ...

Kim Klakow berlin germany


>
> I concur that this bike is from 1974 or 75. Ilkeston production started
> in
> 1974 and this is a low frame number. The mix of components is not
> original,
> but would be considered quite normal for a bike that the owner was not
> concerned
> about keeping original.
>
> It is almost certainly not made for a TI-Raleigh team rider. If it were,
> it
> would have more information than just the size stamped into the BB. It
> would
> likely not have an SB serial number either, but I am not certain about
> that.
>
> Gerrie Knetemann rode a 57cm frame (I don't know whether c-c or c-t) with
> 57cm top tube, so he did not race this frame (not to say that he wasn't
> persuaded
> to ride it at some point so that the owner could say that he did).
>
> There appears to be no evidence that the frame is 753 rather than 531
> tubing.
> 753 is pretty unlikely in 1974 for a frame that wasn't made for a team
> rider. Any frame, team or not, might or might not have a tubing decal. I
> have not
> seen a photo of team frames of that era with half-chrome forks. In fact,
> I
> thought it was a no-no to chrome 753.
>
> My conclusion is that this is a nice early build Ilkeston frame, probably
> 531, not built for a team rider. It could easily be fitted with the right
> equipment and made into a really nice bike -- of unknown history.
>
> Hugh Thornton
> Cheshire, England
>
> In a message dated 21/09/04 02:17:30 GMT Daylight Time, tr4play@cox.net
> writes:
>
>
> > Take a peak and tell me what you think about this bicycle.
> >
> > Advertised provenance with an odd mix of components for a Team bike.
> The
> > Campagnolo SR items would seem appropriate but the Campagnolo Nuovo
> Record
> > and Japanese SR items seem out of place. SB serial number, so she's
> > definitely a special build bike from the Ilkeston Workshop; but being SB
> > 128, I would date her as from 1974 or early 1975 at the latest. The
> paint,
> > chrome and fork all point to 1974/75 and not 1977 which by then chrome
> was
> > gone on both the genuine team bikes and the Team Pro's available through
> > your Raleigh dealer. Not your average Raleigh frame though and given
> the
> > serial number/753 tubing, undoubtedly built under the watchful eye of G.
> > O'Donovan.
> >
> > http://ebay.com/<blah
> >
> > Eric Elman
> > Somers, CT
> >
>
>
>
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