Re: [CR]Bianchi Specialissima on eBay

(Example: Framebuilders:Brian Baylis)

From: <Bikerdaver@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 00:07:43 EDT
Subject: Re: [CR]Bianchi Specialissima on eBay
To: chuckschmidt@earthlink.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


In a message dated 9/28/2004 7:09:22 PM PST, chuckschmidt@earthlink.net writes: Bikerdaver@aol.com wrote:
> The Specialissima (aka Superleggera) was Bianchi top end model for 1983.

I don't really understand you're calling a "Superleggera" a "Specialissima". The term is not interchangable. Can you provide reference to a Specialissima model Bianchi?

Specialissima was used for a model name in the 1960s. None of my catalogs mention a Specialissima after that. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Chuck- I have had a chance to exchange an email with the seller. I agree with you that when I go back and look at all the info that we are discussing, it seems clear that its really come down to a matter of sematics. So the seller is callling it a Specialissima/Superleggera rather than just a Superleggera? We need to call him on "bad" labelling at the very worst, or at least that is what I might do! I knew that there was an interchanging of the Specilissima/Superleggera names over the years and regret that I got tripped up when I first made the CR list posting.

But I will also disagree with you. The Specialissima name appears in many sources that go way beyond the 1960s and is not only interchangeable with the SuperLeggera model, but associated with others as well. 1) If you look at the 7th photo down from the top in the posting <http://ebay.com/<blah eN ame=STRK:MESE:IT>> you will clearly see the Bianchi "Specialissima" decal on the right rear chainstay. Ask the seller for a close up, as I am sure he will provide one. 2) If you look at the 1987 (off-topic) catalog, page 4, you will see a bike called a "Specialissima Giro". Thats 3rd down from the Bianchi's top line up, but as you can tell, they were using that term well into the late 80s. 3) I used to own a 1988 (off-topic) Superleggera. I know for a fact that that particular bike was 3rd down from the top for that year as can easily be seen in the Bianchi catalog. 4) I have seen a copy of a Japanese 1984 Bianchi catalog that has a model called the "Specialissima X-3" being introduced that year. I know that particular model was brought into the US as a "Team Bike" as well, but it is Not listed in any 1984 US catalog that I have ever seen. 5) The 1987(off-topic) Moreno Argentin replica is not listed in the 1987 Bianchi USA catalog, but the bike still exists in spite of that!!
     So in sum, when we put our confusion about sematics aside, my short response is that WE NEED TO DEPEND UPON ACTUAL PHYISCAL EXPERIENCE AS A SOURCE OF KNOWLEDGE. NOT ALL KNOWLEDGE IS CONTAINED WITHIN CATALOGS. Think about it for a moment, do you think pro racers sit around and read catalogs to figure out what their team bikes will look like? I don't think so. cheers- Dave Anderson Cut Bank MT