Ok troops here is my $.02... I remember a little discussion I had with his honor Mr. Baylis about Italy v Cali. This was at the Tullio Anniv. ride. Although all were made from 531 tubing the precision with which the frame were made was quite evident. As Brian was pointing this out what do you think the answer was?,,,,, Troops So Cal is the winner and you can see it with naked eye. Welds are cleaner and so are the stays and drop outs. Maybe it is Brian's personal pride because he worked there but he proved it to me.
Also one must remember something about So Cal. Everybody picks on us because of our weather and life style so we have to try harder in everything we do including frame making . I'd talk about politics but Dale would shoot me and Ted would send me a novel.
Jack (Recovering from the margaritas and 10' to 12' surf) Gabus Laguna Beach, CA jack@shermangabus.com PS: Who ever buys the frame send it to Baylis. I'm on a SAVE THE MASI FRAME MARCH!!!!