Re: [CR]Damage at Bike Shops

(Example: Framebuilding:Tubing)

From: "Steven Willis" <smwillis@verizon.net>
To: <richardsachs@juno.com>
References: <20040911.070236.28268.613130@webmail29.nyc.untd.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Damage at Bike Shops
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:17:38 -0700
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Yes but what does a small time shop do. I can make my recommendations or just fix it. I just fix it and complain to deaf ears. Steven Willis 1778 East Second Street Scotch Plains NJ 07076 908-322-3330 http://www.thebikestand.com


----- Original Message -----
From: richardsachs@juno.com
To: smwillis@verizon.net
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: [CR]Damage at Bike Shops



>
> don't you then question your suppliers re their
> standards? you/they can verify alignment if there
> are no bearing surfaces to reference? with 9 and
> 10 cog cassettes, these issues are more important
> than ever. go to the window and have a howard
> beale moment: "i'm mad as hell and i'm not going
> to take it anymore..."
> e-RICHIE
> chester, ct
>
>
> -- "Steven Willis" <smwillis@verizon.net> wrote:
> I can vouch for that. Even when the manufacture says they are faced and
> taped I find they are more often not .
> Steven Willis
> 1778 East Second Street
> Scotch Plains NJ 07076
> 908-322-3330
> http://www.thebikestand.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <richardsachs@juno.com>
> To: <tullio@TheRamp.net>
> Cc: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 11:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [CR]Damage at Bike Shops
>
>
> >
> > then how do you assume the alignment is checked
> > if there are no surfaces to reference?
> > e-RICHIE
> > chester, ct
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Todd Kuzma <tullio@TheRamp.net> wrote:
> > on 9/10/04 10:52 AM, richardsachs@juno.com at richardsachs@juno.com wrote:
> >
> > > i have no antidote for that, otoh, i don't
> > > believe the lack of machining issue is that
> > > widespread; you simply cannot proceed with
> > > various framebuilding tasks with do some
> > > others first. machining the ht and bb fall
> > > into that category.
> >
> > It is VERY widespread. I'd say that most "production" frames and many
> > supposed "limited production handcrafted 100% pure malt and hops" frames
> have head tubes that have never been faced or reamed.