Re: [CR]eBay Chater Lea Chainset/Crankset

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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:54:11 -0800 (PST)
From: "Kevin Kruger" <ktk17028@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]eBay Chater Lea Chainset/Crankset
To: Peter Naiman <hetchinspete1@yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20050107171632.91372.qmail@web53509.mail.yahoo.com>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Peter, Recall saving a copy of the photo from the original crank listing --- maybe this will be useful is seeing the differences, even though the photo quality is as poor as the recent listing's photo:

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/kt/ktk17028/ChaterCrankKTK.jpg

Kevin Kruger - Grantville, PA


--- Peter Naiman wrote:


> Kevin; I wrote the buyer about the chainset and
> below
> is his reply.
> ......................................................
> Peter
> He told me that he thought they were not chater lea.
> He could be wrong. The arms are exatly the same.
> That
> is why I put I believe they are chater lea. I can
> always take more picture if people want to see them
> closer up that is not a problem. so at least people
> can make there own mind up. I am not falsely
> describing them
>
> Regards
> Steve
> ......................................................
> Peter Naiman
> Shorewood, WI
>
>
> --- Kevin Kruger <ktk17028@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Hilary,
> > It is hard to see from the fuzzy photo, but the
> > right
> > unmarked arm also has a raised pedal mount, while
> > the
> > left does not. I am aware of at least one other
> > European manufacturer who used the same
> form/design
> > as
> > this CL right arm, and in fact own a complete
> > chainset
> > from that maker. This seller attempted to keep
> all
> > my
> > money plus the returned crank, claiming I never
> > returned it. Mysteriously the crank now arrives
> > back
> > in the UK after 4 months and now its back on eBay
> > again!!! He also promised to reimburse me for the
> > return shipping cost, which I asked him to provide
> > (won't hold my breath on this request). All I am
> > saying is let the buyer beware.
> > Kevin Kruger - Grantville, PA
> >
> > --- Hilary Stone <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Looking at the pictures I don't think there's
> any
> > > doubt the right arm is
> > > Chater-Lea too - the shape is absolutely
> correct.
> > > Frequently when items are
> > > rechromed the name can get polished out - the
> > depth
> > > of the original
> > > engraving varies widely. But Chater Lea fluted
> > > cranks come with flutes on
> > > front and back and front only. These are often
> > > mismatched - the dble fluted
> > > are either pre-war or possibly early post-war.
> In
> > > later years Chater could
> > > only supply single fluted ones as spares.
> > >
> > > Hilary Stone, Bristol, England
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: Kevin Kruger <ktk17028@yahoo.com>
> > > > Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 14:52:13 -0800 (PST)
> > > > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > > > Subject: [CR]eBay Chater Lea Chainset/Crankset
> > > >
> > > > Just a word of caution about the Chater Lea
> > crank
> > > > currently listed on eBay under the following
> > > address:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
> > > > d=1
> > > > I purchased this upon its first listing in
> > August,
> > > > 2004, and promptly returned it because only
> the
> > > left
> > > > arm was a Chater Lea (i.e., the arms did not
> > > match).
> > > > The seller claimed to have never received the
> > > returned
> > > > item, which prompted me to pursue a credit
> card
> > > > challenge with PayPal. To the seller's
> > amazement,
> > > the
> > > > crank just arrived back in the UK, and he has
> > now
> > > > relisted it again, without mention of the
> > > mismatched
> > > > arms. Let the buyer beware!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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