Re: [CR]Campy NR sealed boxes! Paramount Pista

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From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>
To: "dddd" <dddd@pacbell.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR]Campy NR sealed boxes! Paramount Pista
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:14:46 -0800
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I'm having a problem with Mr. Snyder's approach to his King Tut's tomb. It strikes at the heart and soul of what I perceive the CR to be about. I would like to see some others join in the discussion. I'd like to know if my thoughts are fair or too critical. If you agree, please throw in your support. If you don't, please let me know, I've got thick skin, took lots of spills and can deal with it. I think if Mr. Snyder wants business advice he should be willing to pay for it or at least offer it to the CR list at a buy it now price for a day as a reward for his education in how to make money. There's no free lunch. Or, Mr. Snyder can select one or more mentors from our august group and get their advice off list for a finder's fee or crack at a percent of his purchases at cost, or whatever for the information he gleans. Ripping off D. Brown, S. Brown, S. Maasland, H. Sachs, etc, etc.. of their hard earned experience is presumptious at least. If he wants to offer it to the list or on the Cycles de Oro for sale column that's one thing. To ask us how to merchandise and then how much to sell it for to the world is crass. Finding out about all the British history, the Masi details, the French and Italian chronologies and variations, the various items for sale on the open market in case one missed it, hints on how to anything with bikes. All of these things are what I think the CR is supposed to be, and I'm happy to impart this type of information as I am able to for free, as do the scores of others on this list. I think Mr. Snyder is out of ethical and philosophical order, and I hope no one answers to his profit at our experience ambitions.


----- Original Message -----
From: dddd
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 3:48 PM
Subject: [CR]Campy NR sealed boxes! Paramount Pista



> Well, I finally made it to the retired bike-builder's storage unit for
> some more purchases, and this time came away with just wheels and wheel
> parts. Some rims I had been looking for, and even saw one that is a
> dual-purpose (made for clinchers OR tubulars!) rim. That I had never heard
> of, let alone seen.
>
> The "big catch" was a new, sealed box of NR hubs. Low flange, 126mm bsc
> "Mozzi Record Strada -- Flange Piccole". I paid $100 for this item.
>
> I already have many used Campy hubs to build with, so I will auction
> these, but my question is whether to photograph/verify the box's contents.
> My instinct is to not break the paper band seal, just offer to do so for
> the winning bidder only at their request. The box, I guess, makes for a
> nice enough photo.
>
> Is the sealed box a real value-adder, or will a buyer likely insist on
> seeing the contents? I imagine one could probably soak off the glued
> portion to verify, but then a fraudulent seller could do the same as well.
> Is an x-ray practical (joking, sort of)?
>
> There's also an old, somewhat rusted Campy 3-piece LF front hub built into
> one of the wheels I didn't buy. Is that something anyone needs? Also a
> ~1960 British NOS Airlite HF rear hub, 40h iir, would I have any luck
> finding a mate for that?
> I think I saw a rear wheel with another 3-piece flip/flop track hub as
> well, but seller wanted to sell that as a spare with his 56cm Paramount
> track bike.
>
> Oh, about the Paramount!! It's a complete 22" bike, light blue orig
> paint, Nervex, no chrome. Shows about half of it's age but in VG cond I
> would say. A spot of rust from a frame pump, and came drilled for a front
> brake when new (1960 or so). I could make an offer on that bike, I
> noticed it had a Phil bb and, oh yeah, the lower half of the fork blades
> are chrome, while the upper half are perfectly round. Parts were a random
> assemblage but had an NR headset and 27.2 NR post. Would that be worth
> the ~$650 asking price?
>
> Thanks to all who helped ID the needle-bearing bb and gave pointers on
> selling the CHP pedals, headsets and posts. I'll do my best to un-earth
> any other remaining regional parts stashes. I have leads!

>

> David Snyder

> Orinda, CA

> USA