Re: [CR]Andre Crozet Lugs

I think it may be possible that EKLA was the name used for these lugs in England and that they were made by Crozet. I have a new set or two of EKLA lugs that came from Thanets - they were used on some Silverthans. And I think I remember seeing AC stamped on them. The ones I have are not very accessible at present so cannot check but they are definitely cast and are of the type that the 1952 Brown Bros catalogue illustrates. They were in very common use by British builders in the late 40s and 50s.

Hilary Stone, Bristol, England
> From: Bob Reid <robertrreid@tiscali.co.uk>
> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 11:32:28 +0100
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Andre Crozet Lugs
>
> Guess I can't spell. For sake of the archives, I've redone the email.
> Apologies all round...
>
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>
> Thanks to Joel for the Crozet lug info - though now I'm confused !
>
> This style of lug often turns up on pre-war (and some post-war) Flying
> Scots, and I always assumed they were by EKLA - for no other reason,
> than that was the name for them that I was given some years ago, and a
> couple of diagrams in Brown Brothers catalogues. They look not unlike
> those by Crozet. not exactly those in Joels advert vis;
> http://www.blackbirdsf.org/crozet.jpg as there are no cutouts to the
> front of the head lugs perhaps peculiar to this particular model, but
> in other aspects they seem the same.
>
> This page I used on the site to illustrate the Ekla lugs ;
> http://www.flying-scot.co.uk/frame_dtl_pages/lugs_ekla_0.html shows
> the similarity, and these can be seen (from a distance) on the
> following frames ;
> http://www.flying-scot.co.uk/frame_pages/frame_3638.html (mapped) &
> http://www.flying-scot.co.uk/frame_images/scot_1930sf.jpg Rattrays
> the framebuilders only described these as "Continental" lugs in the
> catalogues so that's of little help more than 60 years down the line.
>
> I've placed the extracts from the Brown Brothers catalogue on this
> temporary page
> http://www.flying-scot.co.uk/frame_dtl_pages/lugs_ekla_detail.html
> for comparison. Interesting is the footnote to the 1939 diagram "These
> fittings are made by one of the finest Continental makers and are used
> by most of the well-known Continental riders"
>
> It may well be they are Ekla and Not Crozet. Without the obvious "AC"
> stamped on the lug, can anyone tell ? It may well be that many of the
> lug makers followed generic popular patterns, and the difference was in
> detail.
>
> Any thoughts ? or has anyone got an 'Ekla' catalogue for comparison ?
>
> Bob Reid
> Stonehaven
> Scotland
>
> http://www.flying-scot.co.uk (mapped)