You are correct, but it was made before '83, just like Sturmey Archer, etc., so totally qualifies. It's just this johnnie come lately young whippersnapper stuff that's non grata. Ted Ernst Palos verdes Estates, CA
> But don't ban all indexing shifters - the early Super Champions of long
> long ago were indexing - then that friction stuff came to rule the roost.
>
> "All that is new come long ago..."
>
> Mike Kone in Boulder CO
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
>
>> If it's designed and built in 1983 or before it's in! Cinelli pedals and
>> walking under tall Eucalyptus trees might be widowmakers but that's a
>> personal choice. There were many unsuccessful things made that didn't
>> stand
>> the test of time and are uncommon today. If some CR member has an item
>> like
>> that, he/her can display it or use it for all to see and appreciate or
>> deride (couldn't resist ). Who the hell cares? Have fun, enjoy, kibbitz,
>> marvel, that's what it's all about.
>> Ted Ernst
>> Palos Verdes Estates, CA
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "HM & SS Sachs"
>> To: "OROBOYZ" ; "ternst" ; "Classic
>> Rendezvous" ; "themaaslands"
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:54 PM
>> Subject: [CR]Re: staying On Topic...
>>
>>
>> > Herr Listmeister wrote and attaboy (verboten, yah?) -- :-)
>> >
>> > << As I understand it, any equipment in production in 1983 is OK until
>> > was
>> > stopped. No click shifting, clip in pedals, stuff like that.
>> > Ted Ernst >>
>> >
>> > You guys, listen to Ted! It's so simple! ++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > Although the infamous Cinelli M-71 "widowmaker" clipless pedal lived
>> > and
>> > died before the cut-off date, common sense suggests that both
>> > discussion
>> > of it and its use be strongly discouraged. Even the esteemed Mr.
>> > Maasland, who installed them on his trike, seems to have recognized
>> > some
>> > limitations of their charm in hilly country... :-)
>> >
>> > Mostly in good fun, but I think I've ridden mine on the road for the
>> > last
>> > time. Ever.
>> >
>> > harvey sachs
>> > mcLean va