[CR]Tom Simpson, was ultimate French bike/ and Cirque comments

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Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 08:29:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Peter Naiman" <hetchinspete1@yahoo.com>
To: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>, "P.C. Kohler" <kohl57@starpower.net>, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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Subject: [CR]Tom Simpson, was ultimate French bike/ and Cirque comments

Jerry; If you remember back about a month ago or more Peter Koskinen was hosting a Masi ride in North Carolina. I was thinking about taking a Hetchins Curly frame and putting Masi decals on. Of course I was having a bit of fun kidding around, but I bet it would have raised a few eyebrows, atleast.

Just another quick comment with regard to Cirque. It's was great to see the great diversity of bikes that show up each year, and although at times it seems to me that the list may spend quite a bit of time on main stream rides like Masi and Cinelli, such a great showing of other cycles gives me food for thought, that the folks on this list are looking for neat rides to keep alive, and not just the above named. Congrats to all who brought bikes to Cirque this year, as this to me was the best showing so far.

Peter Naiman Shorewood, WI

--- Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I've just had an idea for my next project. Anyone
> have a really beat 60's or 70's Masi frame? One
> that definitely needs refinishing, maybe even with a
> small dent or two? In 53 to 56 cm ctc? I'd like to
> buy one cheap, then have it refinished in Peugeot
> team colors, like one that Merckx or Simpson would
> have ridden. Then we could debate the equipment.
> In Russ's photo, it looks like Simpson wasn't too
> concerned with maintaining the illusion, as he seems
> to have substituted Campy SF hubs for Normandy HF.
> What about Merckx? Did he use Simplex Criterium
> gears to maintain the ficition, or did he stick the
> thumb in his sponsors' eye and insist on Campy NR?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Houston, TX
>
>
>
> Peter Naiman <hetchinspete1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Jerry; Just my thoughts !! I've had a few Masis,
> Cinelli etc and do not see anything special about
> their ride and handling and frankly think that all
> the
> hoo hah about them is really over blown, especially
> about there collectability. From my limited point of
> view, once you've seen a 70s or 80s Masi or Cinelli,
> thay all look alike and frankly bore my creative
> blood. I know this goes against the grain of the
> usual
> collector in the CR Group, but I outgrew these bikes
> years ago. I'd much rather have a frame from a
> smaller
> builder, whether from the UK or elsewhere.
>
> Peter
>
>
> --- Jerome & Elizabeth Moos
> wrote:
> > Well, I'm even more out of touch than you, Peter.
> I
> > was just taking inventory yesterday of my "branch
> > collection" in PA. Completed bikes: 4 American, 2
> > French, 2 British. Framesets: 4 British, 3 French.
>
> > Not an Italian bike in sight. I guess I just don't
> > "get it".
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jerry Moos
> > Houston, TX
> >
> > "P.C. Kohler" wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jerome & Elizabeth Moos"
> > To: "Russ Fitzgerald" ;
> >
> > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 4:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CR]Tom Simpson, was ultimate French
> > bike
> >
> >
> > > I must say, Russ, I never heard of Simpson
> riding
> > a Masi before.
> >
> > Jerry, surely you knew where this thread, like all
> > others on the CR List,
> > would lead. "What's Ultimate French Bike" well..
> it
> > turned out to be
> > Italian! Of course! What were we thinking?! And,
> of
> > course, a Masi. We have
> > all been wasting our time and filling our abodes
> > with all manner of machines
> > from myriad makers and nations. For naught.
> Because,
> > in the end, it's all
> > Masi. Always. Ever since that damn movie, maybe
> > before. I give up. Like the
> > rest of you, I really yearn to be Dave Stollar.
> > Honest. I'm even going to
> > rename my cat Fellini.
> >
> > I even rode my Cinelli today not that nasty PX-10
> > that Tom Simpson (whose
> > real name is Tommassino I've been told) and Eddy
> > Merckx (who must really be
> > Italian not Belgian) wouldn't touch with a barge
> > pole. I think I'll get rid
> > of all my French and British bikes and just keep
> the
> > Cinelli. It's SO much
> > easier. But wait, it's still not a Masi. I can't
> > win. Unless it's one of the
> > thousands of Cinellis that Masi made. It's not
> > really true Masi made the
> > Schwinn Varsity? I'll check the archives on that
> > one.
> >
> > Tutti Masi abordo CR List, non e vero? Sempre.
> >
> > Peter Kohler
> > Washington DC USA
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> Peter Naiman
> 4420 North Ardmore Avenue
> Shorewood, WI 53211
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