Re: [CR]NOW: Holy Grail Bicycle

(Example: Framebuilding:Norris Lockley)

From: "Wspokes" <wspokes@penn.com>
To: "Ted E. Baer" <wickedsky@sbcglobal.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <20050520173002.19801.qmail@web80601.mail.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]NOW: Holy Grail Bicycle
Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 13:33:52 -0400
reply-type=original

It probably differs for each individual out there!

Walt Skrzypek
Falls Creek, Pa


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted E. Baer"
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Cc: Wspokes
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 1:30 PM
Subject: [CR]NOW: Holy Grail Bicycle



>
> OK, what is "the" holy grail of bicycles?
>
> Ted Baer
> Palo Alto, CA
>
>
>
> --- Wspokes <wspokes@penn.com> wrote:
>
>> I think Mike makes a good point. I have a few "Holy
>> Grail" bikes for me in
>> the basement right now...to me...they are worth it
>> for whatever reason I
>> have or someone else may have but I have seen some
>> FAR rarer imported
>> marques with excellent quality builds brought into
>> this country for what I
>> would consider steals compared with these values.
>> They just don't have the
>> "name" that some others have...
>>
>> Then again, this is all just my opinion
>>
>> Walt Skrzypek
>> Falls Creek, Pa
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <hersefan@comcast.net>
>> To: "Ted E. Baer" <wickedsky@sbcglobal.net>;
>> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 1:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CR]What makes DeRosa ($7220) worth
>> more than Confente
>> ($6550)???
>>
>>
>> > Actually its Mario Confente frames - post his Masi
>> career that are so
>> > super rare. But, there are 135 of them out there
>> (OK, a few lost in
>> > crashes). There were very few of these DeRosa
>> bikes brought into the
>> > country - they are much more rare! Its supply and
>> demand. DeRosa is by
>> > anybodys account one of the great Italian bikes,
>> so given that so few came
>> > here, the value makes sense.
>> >
>> > Of course by late 70's, DeRosas were plentiful
>> compared to either - but
>> > those bikes aren't worth the big bucks.
>> >
>> > Now despite the value of the DeRosa, the build
>> quality on the one I had
>> > and others I've heard about is just plain stinky
>> in places - almost
>> > comical compared to a Confente.
>> >
>> > So maybe in terms of scarcity, the DeRosa is the
>> holy grail of Italian
>> > bikes from the early 70's period.
>> >
>> > Now in my mind none of these bikes are the holy
>> grail - but we all like
>> > different things.
>> >
>> > Mike Kone in Boulder CO
>> > -------------- Original message --------------
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Well, subject line says nearly all. I was lead to
>> >> believe that the (Mario) Confete Masi was the
>> "holy
>> >> grail" of bicycles?
>> >>
>> >> What am I missing here with regards to the
>> history of
>> >> this DeRosa bicycle?
>> >>
>> >> Ted Baer
>> >> Palo Alto, CA
>> >>
>> >>
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