Re: Under-rated Schwinns, was [CR]Re: Gas pipe bikes

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Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 07:34:29 -0400
From: "Joe Bender-Zanoni" <joebz@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: Under-rated Schwinns, was [CR]Re: Gas pipe bikes
To: HM & SS Sachs <sachs@erols.com>, corgwyn@erols.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
References: <42B40D32.5080007@erols.com>


The 70's Superior is the Sport Tourer renamed. It has a Suntour rear derailleur and no kickstand. Probably made for only a year or two. 1976-77.

With the kickstand removed, a Sport Tourer weighs 26 or 27 lbs. The frame is incredibly stout and was a good off the shelf choice for expedition touring. 42" wheelbase!

I have a soft spot for these (for no particularly good reason) and chose to ride one from Burlington Vermont to Perce on the Gaspe Peninsula. Smooth and comfortable. Whats a pound or two when you only have about 1000 hills to climb. Ha.

Joe Bender-Zanoni Great Notch, NJ

Joe Bender-Zanoni
Great Notch, NJ


----- Original Message -----
From: HM & SS Sachs
To: corgwyn@erols.com
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 8:01 AM
Subject: Under-rated Schwinns, was [CR]Re: Gas pipe bikes



> There's been discussion of "Super Sports and Sports Tourers were made of seamless drawn chrome-moly tubing and fillet-brazed by hand in the Paramount shop. They can also be had for dirt cheap (if you can find one), ride beautifully, frame strength goes without saying, look nice, and Made in USA..." with mention of the <snip> "Super Sport, a Sports Tourer, and a '78 Superior."
>
> I don't know the 70s Superiors, but perhaps a couple of observations and questions on the others may be helpful.
>
> The "killer" difference between the Super Sport and the Sports Tourer was the bottome bracket. SS had Ashtabula, ST had 3-piece; I think I remember both TA and Nervar alternatives. Q: My memory was that the SS had a higher grade Ashtabula than the lower Continental/Varsity "gang." Had a different look and feel, if I recall correctly. Of course, there were BMX-derived conversion kits that kept the huge bearings (and easy adjustment) of the Ashtabula BB, while enabling use of proper cranks and chainrings...Probably still available.
>
> The other note/question is about weight. I have always had the impression that these models were still notably heavier than the competition, even after the bike was "enlightened" by removing the kid-proof integrated steel kick stand. Or was this my prejudice?
>
> harvey sachs
> mcLean va
> whose buddy gave his SuperSport to Pedals for Progress, a great cause, before I could grab it...