Re: [CR]Re:British Isles

(Example: Framebuilders:Dario Pegoretti)

Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:28:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re:British Isles
To: OROBOYZ@aol.com, StuartMX4@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <64.587af61f.2ffc1bdc@aol.com>


I think that section has been called variously Great Britain, British Isles and United Kingdom and maybe even England over the life of the CR site.

British Isles covers the islands of Great Britain and Ireland and maybe the smaller islands as well, but is politically incorrect, as the Irish Republic is no longer "British" and some there probably resent being referred to as such, just as Arabs resent the phrase "Persian Gulf", preferring "Arabian Gulf", which no doubt the Iranians resent.

I think there are two (almost) proper terms: "Great Britain & Ireland" i.e. Great Britain = England, Scotland, Wales, and maybe Cornwall is separate from England, while Ireland = Northern Ireland plus the Irish Republic.

Alternatively, "United Kingdom & Irish Republic" This groups Northern Ireland politically with Great Britain in the United Kingdom rather than geographically with the Irish Republic (Eire).

I take it from Stuart's post that the Channel Islands and Isle of Man are not technically part of the UK, but probably few bikes have been built there, plus one would think those involved would cut us Yanks at least a bit of slack in not having to split hairs that finely.

Regards,

Jerry Moos Houston, TX

OROBOYZ@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 7/5/2005 1:02:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, StuartMX4@aol.com writes:

<< I see that the Classic Rendezvous entry has changed from the British Isles to the United Kingdom. Does that mean that no cycles have ever been made in the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man? There is no entry for Eire who are not part of the United Kingdom and would be offended by inclusion as part of the British Isles. Have they never built bicycles? I only ask in the interests of accuracy and completeness.

Stuart Tallack in England >>

Hi Stuart: Arggh. I see your point(s). So, what should I do? Any ideas appreciated.. These sorts of differentiation are not my area of expertise.

Dale Brown
Greensboro, NC USA