Fw: Re: [CR]better FINISHED?!?!?!?

(Example: Framebuilders:Jack Taylor)

Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:17:55 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: "Nick Zatezalo" <nickzz@mindspring.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Fw: Re: [CR]better FINISHED?!?!?!?


Riders and their teams win races...not bicycle frames.

FYI...Peugeot's TdF wins were in 1905/06/07/08/13/14/22/75/77

My bicycles are all fast, why am I still slow?

Nick Zatezalo Atlanta,Ga

-----Forwarded Message----- From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Jul 21, 2005 1:09 PM To: Tom Dalton <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]better FINISHED?!?!?!?

As mentioned a couple of days ago, Peugeot has won more TdF than any other marque, and probably the next several places would also be filled with bikes which do not meet Masi's aesthetic standards. Didn't prevent them winning though, did it? The purpose of a racing bike is to allow a sufficiently strong rider to win races. There is absolutely no evidence that all of the factors you site made Masi any more successful at achieving that purpose than the "lesser bikes" you so love to badmouth.

Regards,

Jerry Moos Houston, TX

Tom Dalton <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com> wrote: "The Masi had a better finished frame, that's all."

If by finish you include the mitering, lug prep, brazing, cleanup, paint, decals, geometry, frame component quailty, and design details, I can't say that I disagree. I think Jerry has done us all a service by distilling his understanding of vintage racing bikes as he has. We can now weigh his opinions in the context of this understanding when determining their merit.

Tom Dalton Bethlehem, PA

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