CR Folks: Again thanks. No wonder PT Stallard named one of his bikes after his impression of (and success at) Monthlery. Respectfully, I know to use the accent; but those of us who type in MSN Explorer are not allowed such accuracies. More keenly, wait to you see the lugs on this frame, which is in transit, as pics are forthcoming. JB Froke, Pebble Beach CA