Well.......... My dads Cinelli (a '61, I think) came with Cottered TA cranks and who knows what else. I believe it did come from Spence Wolff back in the day.
He's still got the bike, but it's all NR now. I'd like to talk him into doing a full restoration...........................
On Aug 1, 2005, at 10:42 AM, C. Andrews wrote:
> Peter Kohler wrote, in part:
>
>
> "Well folks can "believe" anything they want! But pray tell
> what was non
> Italian manufacture on most Italian racing bikes c.
> 1960-80s? My Cinelli SC
> does have a Brooks saddle. The rest is tutti Italiani.
>
> The only foreign bit on a PX-10 is what? Well the Reynolds
> tubing! Or maybe
> the Brooks saddle if that's what was fitted.
>
> Today of course it's quite different but CR period bikes...
> yep, that's
> Italian. Or French. Not belief or opinion. Just the list of
> components."
> *****
>
> Uh. Many Cinellis shipped out as frames only. Local shops
> built them up to taste. I have a very interesting 1950s
> Cinelli *B* formerly owned by Carsten Rehbein and Jack
> Bissell that was built up by a famous Berlin shop (name
> escapes me at the moment, the bike is not available for me
> to check), with a mix of stuff. It's exactly as pictured in
> the shop's catalog of the time. Simplex TdF derailleurs,
> with a suicide front, among other things. This bike won
> best-in-show at the 2004 Cirque. Hardly all-italian in any
> case.
>
> This continued well into the 60s... Spence Wolff built up
> many Cinelli frames with a mix of parts, including Phil Wood
> hubs, if I remember right. Someone correct me if I don't...
>
> Charles Andrews
> SoCal
>
> "What concerns me is not the way things are,
> but rather the way people think things are."
>
> - Epictitus
Gene Powell
Rad Finishes
Portland, OR