[CR]Robert Miller

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Subject: [CR]Robert Miller

Robert ,one of my favorites rode a Motobecane.Bicycling Mag used him for a model one time climbing a hill.
Dickey Greer
West Monroe,La


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> 1. Re: Latex tube questions (Chuck Schmidt)
> 2. Re: Continetal Oval vs. Imperial Oval (henox)
> 3. Re: Gentle reminder from list owner..... (Chuck Schmidt)
> 4. Re: Gentle reminder from list owner..... (Forbes Bagatelle-Black)
> 5. tubulars (Vladislav Luskin)
> 6. the bike? the rider? the gears? or what?
> 7. latex tubes (brian blum)
> 8. (Robert D. Dayton,Jr.)
> 9. RE: (Robert D. Dayton,Jr.)
> 10. Re Robert Millar... (Bob Reid)
> 11. Re: tubulars
> 12. Re: Robert Millar (Bob Reid)
> 13. Re: tubulars (Paul C. Brodek)
> 14. RE:BAG SUPPORTS (Bob Freitas)
> 15. Andre Bertin track bike ??
> 16. Re: tubulars (David Benson)
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> Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 14:34:27 -0800
> From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Latex tube questions
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> Jan Heine wrote:
>>
> (snip)
>> The puncture resistance of the Michelin latex tubes, as well as their
>> overall durability, is at least as good as standard butyl tubes.
>> Their wall thickness is greater than that of the tubes found in
>> sew-ups - which I have found too thin for long-term use in clincher
>> tires.
>
>
> I used latex tubes extensively, starting in the mid 1970s till the early
> 1990s. I used imp'air brand latex tubes from France and another brand
> that I don't remember the name of that were pretty thick and had wavy
> ribs. The major drawback for me was that when the inner tube got old
> the latex would rot and at that point would develop a large tear (four
> inch split) when you got a puncture. I liked how the patch would bond
> itself to the latex, but I couldn't (or didn't want to) keep track of
> how old a particular latex tube was. When the latex tube got to be a
> certain age you could take the inner tube in your hands and break it to
> pieces by stretching it. Had a couple of long rides ended by latex
> inner tubes in my clinchers that had gotten a few years old.
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, Southern California
>
> .
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 14:47:33 -0700
> From: "henox" <henox@icycle.net>
> To: "Fred Rafael Rednor" <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>,
> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Continetal Oval vs. Imperial Oval
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> Subject: [CR]Continetal Oval vs. Imperial Oval
>
> Fred asked:
>
>
>> During the recent discussion of Reynolds fork blades, the older
>> style blades were called "Continental Oval". In other
>> discussions, I've seen the older Reynolds blades identified as
>> "Imperial Oval".
>>
>> Are these actually one in the same? Or were there two,
>> slightly different profiles of fork blades available from
>> Reynolds at that time?
>
> Original Reynold blades, at least circa 1961 when I began using them, were
> relative long ( front to back) and narrow (side to side).
>
> The Continental Oval blades were more nearly round and would fit the same
> crowns as Columbus blades.
>
> Hugh Enox
> La Honda
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 15:15:45 -0800
> From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Gentle reminder from list owner.....
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> OROBOYZ@aol.com wrote:
>>
> (snip)
>> Just keep up the good work, stay on topic and keep it simple and to the
>> point
>> and all of us will have fun...
>>
>> Thanks
>> Dale
>
>
>
> Dale,
>
> In the future? You need to include your first and LAST name and the
> city and state you reside in. Your cooperation would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, CA, USA
>
> .
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 15:51:07 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Forbes Bagatelle-Black <diarmaede@yahoo.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Gentle reminder from list owner.....
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> "Dale,
>
> In the future? You need to include your first and
> LAST name and the
> city and state you reside in. Your cooperation would
> be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, CA, USA"
>
> It's good to be king...
>
> King of the Mountains that is!! Does anyone remember
> what bicycle Robert Millar rode to his stunning
> victories in the early 80s, a time period highly
> on-topic for this list?
>
> Relevantly Yours,
>
> J. Forbes Bagatelle-Black
> Santa Clarita, CA
>
> PS: Guess I'll take my questions about filament
> length in the carbon weave of Lance's Trek to another
> group... ;)
>
> Join the "Bicycle Restoration Group" at
> http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bicycle_Restoration
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 15:59:00 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Vladislav Luskin <vladluskin@yahoo.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]tubulars
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>
> Does anyone know of availability of Conti Competition tubular referred to
> below in this Cyclinews.com's piece of May 10, 2005?
>
> "We arrived at Viesly, and the Continental crew had some 25 choice ex-pro
> team bicycles ready - except for pedals - all fitted with Conti's new 25mm
> tubular race tyre, called the 'Competition', but with an extra layer of
> puncture protection material called Vectran. These were the same tyres,
> inflated to 6.5 bar, that would be going on Phonak, T-Mobile,
> Saunier-Duval and Credit Agricole's bikes in Paris-Roubaix the following
> day."
>
> Vlad Luskin
> SFCA
>
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> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 19:08:01 -0400 (EDT)
> From: chasds@mindspring.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]the bike? the rider? the gears? or what?
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>
> chuck wrote, then Tom wrote, in response to what
> Peter Kohler wrote:
>
> Chuck wrote: "I always burst out laughing when I read this Walter Mitty,
> Snoopy
> and
> the Red Baron stuff on the list. You guys crack me up!!!!!"
>
>
> Tom wrote: Com'on Chuck, are you really doubting that if the guy on the
> RRA is stronger than
> the guy on the Litespeed by more than enough to make up for the mechanical
> losses
> in the 3-speed hub, that the guy on the RRA won't kick his butt? It then
> seems
> like only a small logical leap to say that a 22-pound hub geared 3-speed
> RRA is
> "faster" than a 17-pound 10-speed Ergo C50.
>
> *******
>
> At the risk of presumption I suspect Chuck's point is: do those guys
> on the Lightspeeds know they're in a race with Peter and his
> RRA? That is not clear to me.
>
> without knowing that, claims that one piece of gear is better than another
> based on blowing by someone on a bikepath, are useless...and may
> be useless in any case. Do we know how many miles and at what speed
> said Lightspeed riders rode before Peter found them? do we
> know if said Lightspeed riders even care if Peter passes them or not?
>
> Plenty of guys blow by me on the road. Perhaps I could pass them in my
> turn if I happened to feel like it. Most of the time I don't feel like
> it.
> I'm too busy enjoying the ride.
>
> If Peter would like to prove something in a more systematic way, I
> suggest he take a trip out here to sunny California, and we can
> do a time-trial between him and Chuck. I think Glendora to Baldy
> Village would be interesting. Around 5000 feet of climbing in
> 25 miles. Chuck on his modern Ergo bike, Peter on his RRA with
> the Sturmey hub. I'd be interested in seeing how that came out.
> or, to save time, we'll just set them both loose at the base of
> Glendora Mountain Road to ride up to Baldy Village together.
>
> C'mon Peter! The weather out here is quite nice right now.
> I'm sure Chuck would be up for it..<g>
>
> I think the old high-zoot planetary-gear hubs are way-cool, but
> I wouldn't go so far as to say they're superior to modern Ergo stuff.
>
> Charles Andrews
> SoCal
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 15:08:37 -0800
> From: "brian blum" <bbspokes@lycos.com>
> To: ClassicRendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]latex tubes
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> My experience is the same as Dave's. I bought a bike 5 years ago and on
> the
> first ride while going downhill I flatted. The tube deflated instantly, a
> nd if I was in a corner I would have crashed. Whould you want to risk your
> vintage steed to a crash where you could damage the paint? I do not know
> ho
> w old the latex tubes are or whether they might have deteriorated due to
> co
> ntamination from pump oil but the risk for me is not tolerable. I doubt
> the
> y make much difference anyway. One thing that truely ruins a bike's ride
> is
> Mister Tuffies. They make a Paramount ride like a Huffy. Brian Blum in B
> erkeley
>
>
>
>
> From: dave martinez <dmart84815@yahoo.com>
> To: tsan7759142@comcast.net, CR List <ClassicRendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Latex tube questions
> Message-ID: <20050802201839.16305.qmail@web32108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> Hello Tom,
>
> I've had OK luck with latex tubes and I believe that they do make for
> a better ride, there is a significant disadvantage that I've found.
>
> Firstly all my wheel sets are from pre 1984.
>
> Its important to coat the latex tube and inside of the tire with talc
> to provide a dry lubricant. You might even try stretching the tire a
> little.
>
> The main problem that I've had with latex tubes is that when they
> flat, it can be a rapid and potential catastrophic deflation. You'll
> find yourself riding on the rim in seconds, struggling for control.
> Seems butyl is more forgiving with theres a puncture.
>
> Regards,
> Dave Martinez
> Fremont Ca
> ah, the cost of performance...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tom Sanders <tsan7
>
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>
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 19:39:57 -0400
> From: "Robert D. Dayton,Jr." <rdayton@carolina.rr.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]
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> Hi All:
>
> Let me introduce myself.
>
> My name is Rob Dayton.
>
> I love the bicycle but got sidetracked over the years.
>
> But I've gotten off the couch and strapped on the cleats.
>
> I've know Dale Brown for many many years and credit him with getting my
> bike
> repacked and ready to roll.
>
> Over the years I've ridden a Lilac colored Raleigh Competition. A Legnano
> (which I should have never parted with).
>
> My stable currently consists of a SL CIOCC with Super Record.
>
> Two SLX Roberts with C-Record. One's a road frame and one's a criterium
> frame.
>
> But I'm spending most of my time right now spinning on a Schwinn Madison.
>
> My legs ache. My lungs burn.
>
> BUT it hurts so good.
>
> I look forward to participating in your great community.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 19:49:52 -0400
> From: "Robert D. Dayton,Jr." <rdayton@carolina.rr.com>
> To: "'Robert D. Dayton,Jr.'" <rdayton@carolina.rr.com>,
> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: RE: [CR]
> Message-ID: <200508022349.j72NnqL4025299@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com>
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> Forgot to include name address.
> Rob Dayton
> Charlotte, NC USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Robert D.
> Dayton,Jr.
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 7:40 PM
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]
>
> Hi All:
>
> Let me introduce myself.
>
> My name is Rob Dayton.
>
> I love the bicycle but got sidetracked over the years.
>
> But I've gotten off the couch and strapped on the cleats.
>
> I've know Dale Brown for many many years and credit him with getting my
> bike
> repacked and ready to roll.
>
> Over the years I've ridden a Lilac colored Raleigh Competition. A Legnano
> (which I should have never parted with).
>
> My stable currently consists of a SL CIOCC with Super Record.
>
> Two SLX Roberts with C-Record. One's a road frame and one's a criterium
> frame.
>
> But I'm spending most of my time right now spinning on a Schwinn Madison.
>
> My legs ache. My lungs burn.
>
> BUT it hurts so good.
>
> I look forward to participating in your great community.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 00:54:05 +0000
> From: Bob Reid <robertrreid@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: Forbes Bagatelle-Black <diarmaede@yahoo.com>
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Re Robert Millar...
> Message-ID: <2F5EBC54-5408-42AB-8E98-53741844C6C9@tiscali.co.uk>
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> Professional to Peugeot from ACBB in 1980
> Peugeot / Esso / Michelin (80/81)
> Peugeot/ Shell / Michelin 82-85) *** beyond end of the CT time period
> ****
> till Panasonic /Merckx in 86
>
> The answer is - oh not again - a chequerboard, then black Peugeot PY
> something or other...vaguely remember it being distinctly vitus like.
> Best result in the ttour (4th in the GC and KoM) came in 84'
>
> Britains most successful stage rider, Scottish of course, sadly now a
> recluse from the whole cycling scene.
>
> Bob Reid
> Stonehaven
> Scotland
>
>
> On 2 Aug 2005, at 22:51, Forbes Bagatelle-Black wrote:
>
>> "Dale,
>>
>> In the future? You need to include your first and
>> LAST name and the
>> city and state you reside in. Your cooperation would
>> be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chuck Schmidt
>> South Pasadena, CA, USA"
>>
>> It's good to be king...
>>
>> King of the Mountains that is!! Does anyone remember
>> what bicycle Robert Millar rode to his stunning
>> victories in the early 80s, a time period highly
>> on-topic for this list?
>>
>> Relevantly Yours,
>>
>> J. Forbes Bagatelle-Black
>> Santa Clarita, CA
>>
>> PS: Guess I'll take my questions about filament
>> length in the carbon weave of Lance's Trek to another
>> group... ;)
>>
>> Join the "Bicycle Restoration Group" at http://
>> sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bicycle_Restoration
>>
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________
>> Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
>> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 19:54:30 -0400
> From: pbridge130@aol.com
> To: vladluskin@yahoo.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]tubulars
> Message-ID: <8C765D4A8AFF3F7-B30-81F3@FWM-D36.sysops.aol.com>
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>
> http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/bicycle/themes/tires/race/competition/competition_en.html
>
> http://bikemine.com/
>
> http://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?page=8&description=Comp+240+Tubular+Tire&vendorCode=CONTI&major=1&minor=28
>
> Bring money.
>
> Peter Bridge
> sdcausa
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vladislav Luskin <vladluskin@yahoo.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 15:59:00 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: [CR]tubulars
>
>
>
> Does anyone know of availability of Conti Competition tubular referred to
> below
> in this Cyclinews.com's piece of May 10, 2005?
>
> "We arrived at Viesly, and the Continental crew had some 25 choice ex-pro
> team
> bicycles ready - except for pedals - all fitted with Conti's new 25mm
> tubular
> race tyre, called the 'Competition', but with an extra layer of puncture
> protection material called Vectran. These were the same tyres, inflated to
> 6.5
> bar, that would be going on Phonak, T-Mobile, Saunier-Duval and Credit
> Agricole's bikes in Paris-Roubaix the following day."
>
> Vlad Luskin
> SFCA
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 00:55:34 +0000
> From: Bob Reid <robertrreid@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: Classic Cycling List <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Re: Robert Millar
> Message-ID: <0857D067-F1C5-45D2-8499-70047D076D82@tiscali.co.uk>
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>
> Professional to Peugeot from ACBB in 1980
> Peugeot / Esso / Michelin (80/81)
> Peugeot/ Shell / Michelin 82-85) *** beyond end of the CT time period
> ****
> till Panasonic /Merckx in 86
>
> The answer is - oh not again - a chequerboard, then black Peugeot PY
> something or other...vaguely remember it being distinctly vitus like.
> Best result in the ttour (4th in the GC and KoM) came in 84'
>
> Britains most successful stage rider, Scottish of course, sadly now a
> recluse from the whole cycling scene.
>
> Bob Reid
> Stonehaven
> Scotland
>
> On 2 Aug 2005, at 22:51, Forbes Bagatelle-Black wrote:
>
>> "Dale,
>>
>> In the future? You need to include your first and
>> LAST name and the
>> city and state you reside in. Your cooperation would
>> be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chuck Schmidt
>> South Pasadena, CA, USA"
>>
>> It's good to be king...
>>
>> King of the Mountains that is!! Does anyone remember
>> what bicycle Robert Millar rode to his stunning
>> victories in the early 80s, a time period highly
>> on-topic for this list?
>>
>> Relevantly Yours,
>>
>> J. Forbes Bagatelle-Black
>> Santa Clarita, CA
>>
>> PS: Guess I'll take my questions about filament
>> length in the carbon weave of Lance's Trek to another
>> group... ;)
>>
>> Join the "Bicycle Restoration Group" at http://
>> sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bicycle_Restoration
>>
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________
>> Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
>> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 20:05:14 -0400
> From: "Paul C. Brodek" <pcb@skyweb.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]tubulars
> Message-ID: <2a20f1tr8660o61v68sevl6io8i1doomgu@4ax.com>
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> Hi Vlad,
>
> I recently sourced a pair of Continental Competition 25 tubulars, and
> had to return one due to a slow leak. The seller told me that the US
> distributor brought in fewer than two dozen Comp 25s, so even the
> basic Comp 25s are pretty hard to come by in the US.
>
> I've never heard mention anywhere else of Comp 25s with extra
> puncture-resistant material.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ
>
> On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 15:59:00 -0700 (PDT), Vladislav Luskin
> <vladluskin@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
> Does anyone know of availability of Conti Competition tubular referred
> to below in this Cyclinews.com's piece of May 10, 2005?
>>
> Conti's new 25mm tubular race tyre, called the 'Competition', but with
> an extra layer of puncture protection material called Vectran. These
> were the same tyres, inflated to 6.5 bar, that would be going on
> Phonak, T-Mobile, Saunier-Duval and Credit Agricole's bikes in
> Paris-Roubaix the following day."
>>
>>Vlad Luskin
>>SFCA
>
>
> Paul C. Brodek
> Hillsdale, N.J. U.S.A.
> E-mail: pcb@skyweb.net
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> Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 17:21:34 -0700
> From: Bob Freitas <freitas1@pacbell.net>
> To: marc garcia <marcgarcia80@ameritech.net>
> Cc: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]RE:BAG SUPPORTS
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> They of course were made by PARK now just in the bike
> tool business but originally quite a high volume SCHWINN dealer
> made them for SCHWINN under private label and everyone else
> under "PARK" real cool ones were alloy with plasic covering.
> I still have an alloy Handlebar bag support in the
> garage its primary use is holding the TA bag on my ALEX MOULTON.
> enough name
> dropping for the day
> BOB
> FREITAS
> MILL
> VALLEY,CA
> had a nice ride today on a
> bike that has been talked about to much recently
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 17:35:40 -0700
> From: vjp@telus.net
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Andre Bertin track bike ??
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> I picked up an Andre Bertin track bike yesterday and I am curious about a
> couple of things.
>
> It has Durifort decals on the forks and seattube. What year did these
> change
> to Vitus?
>
> It has 96mm front fork spacing which I understand was common on older
> french
> bikes. When did the French change to 100mm?
>
> The rear track ends measure out to about 115mm. Did they also have a
> different rear hub spacing? What time period?
>
> The bike came with early 80's Campy HF pista hubs laced to gold NISI rims
> but I am thinking all Fraunch would be the way to go. Any suggestions on
> period french track goodies?
>
> Durifort decals available...maybe....kinda????
>
> Thanks so much
>
> Victor Penner
>
> Van,BC,Can
>
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>
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 10:46:32 +1000 (EST)
> From: David Benson <bensondoc@yahoo.com.au>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]tubulars
> Message-ID: <20050803004632.11655.qmail@web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> All 2006 model Conti Competitions will have the Vectran layer under the
> tread.
>
> David Benson
> Auckland, NZ
>
> "Paul C. Brodek" <pcb@skyweb.net> wrote:
> Hi Vlad,
>
> I recently sourced a pair of Continental Competition 25 tubulars, and
> had to return one due to a slow leak. The seller told me that the US
> distributor brought in fewer than two dozen Comp 25s, so even the
> basic Comp 25s are pretty hard to come by in the US.
>
> I've never heard mention anywhere else of Comp 25s with extra
> puncture-resistant material.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ
>
> On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 15:59:00 -0700 (PDT), Vladislav Luskin
> wrote:
>
>>
> Does anyone know of availability of Conti Competition tubular referred
> to below in this Cyclinews.com's piece of May 10, 2005?
>>
> Conti's new 25mm tubular race tyre, called the 'Competition', but with
> an extra layer of puncture protection material called Vectran. These
> were the same tyres, inflated to 6.5 bar, that would be going on
> Phonak, T-Mobile, Saunier-Duval and Credit Agricole's bikes in
> Paris-Roubaix the following day."
>>
>>Vlad Luskin
>>SFCA
>
>
> Paul C. Brodek
> Hillsdale, N.J. U.S.A.
> E-mail: pcb@skyweb.net
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