Re: [CR]What KOF means in the context of the CR

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From: "Brandon Ives" <brandon@ivycycles.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]What KOF means in the context of the CR
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:46:25 -0700
To: oroboyz@aol.com
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

I bow to Dale, though I'd still like to see a more delineated area around what a KOF really means and still feel it's way too vague to mean anything special. I just fell that it's a special term like Master or Virtuoso and shouldn't be watered down from misuse like the term Prodigy -- thought I do love the band. If Dale want's it vague we can leave it vague. For those that thought my words were too harsh I'm sorry. This is just one of those issues that has been bugging me for a long time. thanks, Brandon"monkeyman"Ives Coeur d'Alene, Idaho

PS: I'm still looking for recommendations on Vancouver, B.C. From the "flood" of responses I've had it doesn't seem anyone's ever been there, if this is the case I would recommend it to anyone planning a a vacation.

On Aug 11, 2005, at 1:09 PM, oroboyz@aol.com wrote:
> << I have a newbie question:
> what is "KOF?" >>
>
> Hi Kendra:
>
> Ha! They are discussing that on the list right now, so I am
> answeringt all.
>
> "Keeper of the flame" means (to me) a builder who is devoted to and
> honors traditional construction and aesthetic themes.
>
> That eliminates (In my opinion) new materials such as Ti, carbon &
> aluminum. Even when those materials were used in odd ball old
> bikes, they were non traditional. The flame cannot be kept up if it
> was not aflamein the first place!
>
> "Traditional" is important, not as a way to conform, but as a path
> to a progressively more refined product through slow and thoughtful
> evolution and considered form.
>
> I can easily recognize a KOF based upon that approach......So
> that's what will be used in the CR. No committee necessary, thanks!
>
> (Whew!)
>
> Dale Brown
> Greensboro, NC USA
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> To: pbridge130@aol.com; wickedsky@sbcglobal.net;
> classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:56:53 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: [CR]KOF solution
>
> I don't think we are going very far with this proposal of
> democarcy. I believe
> Dale a few years ago, when the list had threatened to get out of
> control, stated
> that his future policy would be the "Attila the Hun" school of
> management. Or
> maybe that was Ghengis Khan, but you get the idea. Considering the
> chaos on
> some discussion lists that have tried democracy, I think a little
> benovelant
> dictatorship isn't a bad thing.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Houston, TX
>
> pbridge130@aol.com wrote:
> How immoral, un-Godly, and un-American, and politically-correct of
> you! Have you
> taken a stand on anything in your life? Don't you realize that
> there is a right
> answer and a wrong answer to every question, black and white, no
> grays, and the
> goats must be separated from the sheep, so as not to taint them?
>
> I bet you don't support the troops, either, do you?
>
> ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter Bridge
> (not a sheep, living in)
> sdcausa
> (I wish I could find the "Through the Looking Glass" quote that
> says something
> like, 'a thing means exactly what I say it means')
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted E. Baer
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:47:07 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: [CR]KOF solution
>
>
> I know some, if not many of you will become infuriated
> with what I'm about to suggest, but I'll suggest it
> anyway as by recent posts we CLEARLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT
> A KOF bicycle (myself included) is.
>
> I read the CR list rules and I realize this is a
> Republican run list.
>
> However, I think we ought to take a "Democratic"
> approach to laying this KOF thing to rest.
>
> I suggest: Every CR list member SUBMITS A LIST OF
> WHAT HE OR SHE BELIEVES QUALIFIES FOR AND/OR IS A KOF
> BICYCLE; (makes, models, brands, tubing, builder,
> componentry, etc.) Then we cross off all of the
> "doubles" (for a KOF suggested more than one time) and
> make a list. The list could then be put on the CR
> website. This way everyone gets to "chime in" and
> from there we have "fully-encompassing criteria" from
> which to refer to and discuss.
>
> Ted E. Baer
> Palo Alto, CA
>
>
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