RE: [CR]re: Legacy & Contributions of the Master Builders? (allen key brake fitting bolts)

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From: "Bruce Gordon" <bgcycles@svn.net>
To: "'Doug Fattic'" <fatticbicycles@qtm.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: RE: [CR]re: Legacy & Contributions of the Master Builders? (allen key brake fitting bolts)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 15:14:51 -0700
Organization: Bruce Gordon Cycles
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When I was part owner of Eisentraut Bicycles Inc. in 1974 we did allen key brake centerbolts. We would cut down the long bolts and rethread them 1/4 x 28 thread. And then we would turn a shoulder on an "Allen Nut". We used 1/4 threads because there were no metric allen nuts that we could find. I don't claim to have invented the idea - I think I saw them on some kind of custom frame first - don't know who the builder was. Bruce Gordon http://www.bgcycles.com

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Doug Fattic Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 2:26 PM To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: FW: [CR]re: Legacy & Contributions of the Master Builders? (allen key brake fitting bolts)

I Remember in August of 1976 visiting my cousin who was at that time an owner of Raincross Cyclery in Riverside, Ca. It was my first chance to show him a bike that I had built after coming back from England in 1975. He asked if I could do allen key brake fitting bolts. I had never seen them before so I asked him where he got the idea. To show me, he had me meet a California racer who rode a Confente. That was my first acquaintance with the concept. Of course I have no idea if Mario copied this from somewhere else like Italy or someone else Peter Johnson or if it was original.

By the way, that racer was a well known name at the time but I have forgotten who is was.

Doug Fattic Niles, Michigan

John Jorgensen asked:
>
>Who started the trend to allen key brake fixing bolt nuts? That swept
>through in the 70's to be finally fully endorsed by the component
>manufacturer's just a little beyond the CR timeline?
>

Wasn't that "our" Peter Johnson?

Roy "Bicycle trivia for $40, Alex" Drinkwater Lititz, PA