My '77 Medici's lugs don't look anything like that. They have much shorter points, smaller cutouts, more graceful curves IMO, and look a lot like the pressed lugs on my '74 Italian GC. I'm starting to think my lugs aren't cast. Brian? Do you stil have the pics. of my bike that I sent you (a long time ago)? Are mine DuBois lugs maybe? Greg Parker Ann Arbor, Michigan Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:46:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Raymond Dobbins <raydobbins2003@yahoo.com> To: John Jorgensen <designzero@earthlink.net>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR] Confente Lugs and BB - PHOTOS
for those who are interested in seeing pretty good photos of the confente-designed lugs, on a 1984 medici pro-strada, head over to:
http://www.raydobbins.com/
ray dobbins
miami florida
> Greg wrote regarding the solid seat lug ears on the Confente
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\r?\n> Yep, the binder bolt area looks solid (no open space), so it must be investment cast. BB shell is a Gargatte I believe ("+GF+" markings), fork crown looks to be maybe IC too? Who cast the lugs? Microfusione?
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\r?\n> Greg- Mario while at Masi was working with Microfusione regarding IClugs for them.
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\r?\n> Solid Seat lug ears on an Italian bike have nothing significant to
\r?\n> say IC, Got to see the work of Masi in the raw pre IC lugs
\r?\n> both from here and Italy, a section of tubing was brazed into the lug
\r?\n> ear section, voids filled with brass, then sculpted back,
\r?\n> when I saw the process , I thought wow, that is labor intensive!
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\r?\n> Mario used the same BB & fork crown as he had used at Masi. just a
\r?\n> lot of filing & machining.
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\r?\n> I know his early frames used Bocama lugs, would love to see the very
\r?\n> early and very late to compare.. Best chance to get them
\r?\n> together at one time...'06 Cirque theme? Or, best at VR6 perhaps.
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\r?\n> My '68 Foirelli Coppi has these solid ears, as do many other Italian
\r?\n> bike of the period and prior.
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\r?\n> John Jorgensen
\r?\n> Palos Verdes Ca
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\r?\n> Where a big box from Italy just arrived...