[CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 35, Issue 45

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From: "Tony & Shellie Welch" <TSWelch@Indy.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:07:59 -0500
Subject: [CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 35, Issue 45

I found this on how to tie the twine on handlebar coth tape. http://www.rivendellbicycles.com/webalog/handlebars_stems_tape/16086.html

Tony Welch
Indianapolis, Indiana
USA


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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. RE: Period correct (Ken Freeeman)
> 2. Re: Mafac or Mavic rims? (Jerome & Elizabeth Moos)
> 3. Campagnolo Sell off (Chuck Johnston)
> 4. Spectacular biffs and recumbents. (Steve Leitgen)
> 5. Re: shellac a "cork" handlebar tape? (Steve Maas)
> 6. Re: Re: here
> 7.
> Ebay outing....Raleigh frame pump, Turbo saddles, '82 Tour book and
> more (Mark Poore)
> 8. RE: shellac a "cork" handlebar tape? (Ed Wagner)
> 9. Re: FS Campag chainring. 152 bcd. Unusual.
> 10. Re: Re: FS Campag chainring. 152 bcd. Unusual.
> 11. WTB: Carlton brake hoods (Reid Fisher)
> 12. Re: Having your fake and eating it, too.
> 13. Re: Shellac
> 14. Re: shellac a "cork" handlebar tape?
> 15. Re: shellac a "cork" handlebar tape? (Fredrick Yavorsky)
> 16. Part it out or sell it whole? (Scott Peterson)
> 17. Ray Green, Brighton, England
>
>
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>
> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 07:37:23 -0500
> From: "Ken Freeeman" <freesound@comcast.net>
> To: "'Steve Leitgen'" <sleitgen@charter.net>,
> "'kim klakow'" <Akimbo71@gmx.net>
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: RE: [CR]Period correct
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> I wish I'd thought of that "original rust!"
>
> Pete should get a Rolex Oyster. They look the same now as they did back
> then, just cost about 20 times as much. No chance of sweat seepage, adds
> grams, though!
>
> Ken Freeman
> Ann Arbor, MI
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Steve Leitgen
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:00 AM
> To: kim klakow
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Period correct
>
> I like to think I'm more aerodynamic. And everyone knows an aerodynamic
> addition increases weigh.
>
> Steve Leitgen
> La Crosse, WI
>
>
> On Nov 10, 2005, at 5:46 AM, kim klakow wrote:
>
> > Who still weighs as much as they did in the cut-off date in 1983?
> > I've gained a lot, but then again I was only 12.
> >
> > Kim "original rust" Klakow
> >
> >
> > Pete wrote:
> >
> >> 1970 Piaget or something. And let my hair grow to a suitable '70s
> >> length , too. So Nick... I'm with you, bro. Just don't stop at the
> >> bike.
> >
> > --
> > Kim Klakow
> >
> > Diplom Grafik Designer
> > Akimbo71@gmx.net
> > +49172-1786481
> > Berlin - Germany
> >
> > Telefonieren Sie schon oder sparen Sie noch?
> > NEU: GMX Phone_Flat http://www.gmx.net/de/go/telefonie
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> _______________________________________________
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 05:42:54 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> To: Steve Leitgen <sleitgen@charter.net>,
> Classic Rendezvous <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Mafac or Mavic rims?
> Message-ID: <20051110134254.93663.qmail@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> Steve, I've never seen or heard of MAFAC rims. If they really were such, I'd like to hear some details as well.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Big Spring, TX
>
> Steve Leitgen <sleitgen@charter.net> wrote:
> Group;
> In 1977 and 78 I went to school in Switzerland. Did a lot of riding
> including some with a french club out of Mulhouse. A couple of the
> french guys were riding top end Peugeots. They had clinchers and the
> rims were 17mm. They were narrower than the more popular Rigida 13-19s.
> To this day I could swear they were Mafacs not Mavics. Of course we are
> dealing with a memory from almost 30 years ago.
>
> So .... Mafac 17mm rims.
>
> 1) Does any one know anything about those rims?
> 2) Can they be acquired?
>
>
> Steve Leitgen
> La Crosse, WI
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 06:49:49 -0700
> From: "Chuck Johnston" <crj@frii.com>
> To: "Classicrendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Campagnolo Sell off
> Message-ID: <JJEDKDJHNBMBFCKNHHHBKEMEDEAA.crj@frii.com>
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>
>
> $55.00 Campagnolo Super Record Pedals with toe clips Binda extra toe straps
> (2 each pedal actually 3 Binda one Eddy Merckx Binda style ) Used
> $45.00 Campagnolo Super Record front derailleur clamp on type 1978? Clean
> no wear Chrome excellent condition
> $25.00 Campagnolo Nuovo Record down tube shift levers Braze on style with
> early style levers 1978 vintage?
> $85.00 Campagnolo Super Record Rear derailleur with aluminum pivot pins
> replaced with steel pivot pins pat 78. Used Good Condition Clean Ti bolts.
> $15.00 Campagnolo record bolt small set rear derailleur small chrome bolts
> from Campy Rear derailleur Partial set of chrome bolts
>
>
> Contact me off list for more info or photos
> all items + shipping
>
>
> Thanks
> Chuck Johnston
> Ft Collins Colo
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:42:34 -0600
> From: Steve Leitgen <sleitgen@charter.net>
> To: Classic Rendezvous <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Spectacular biffs and recumbents.
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> I believe recently we had a thread about great splats and thought I
> should share this one with the group.
>
> In the spring of 83 I finished my second recumbent. (Would an old 'bent
> be on topic?) A rather precocious short wheel base machine. I even rode
> it at the Shakopee Velodrome a few times. Pucker factor could best be
> described as coming off a 55 degree bank on a rolling lawn chair.
> Anyway, I took it on RAGBRAI 12 (1983). The beast had a two stage
> drive. I was tooling down the road about 22-23mph when the front chain
> came off. It instantly wrapped around the front wheel which also came
> to an immediate stop. The bike cartwheeled with me flying through the
> air coming to a point worthy telemark landing. I slid for about 10-15
> feet grinding down my left cleat and buffing a little skin off the top
> of my right ankle. Arms out, Taa Daa! I meant to do that.
>
> Points given for style.
>
> Steve Leitgen
> La Crosse, WI
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:50:54 +0000
> From: Steve Maas <stevem@mail.nonlintec.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]shellac a "cork" handlebar tape?
> Message-ID: <43735E4E.4030204@mail.nonlintec.com>
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> Also available at Bicycle Classics:
>
> http://www.bicycleclassics.com/bartape.html
>
> Steve Maas
> Dublin, Ireland
>
>
> Roman Stankus wrote:
>
> > Still shown as available at Harris Cyclery in most colors including white,
> > yellow......
> >
> > Roman Stankus
> > Atlanta, Ga.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> > [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Martin Appel
> > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:57 AM
> > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > Subject: [CR]shellac a "cork" handlebar tape?
> >
> > shellacing a cloth handlebar tape is a nice way to give your bike a
> > classic look.
> >
> > Sad thing is that cloth handlebar tape in colors other than black seems
> > to have vanished rom the market; Rivendell is out of stock...
> >
> > so i thought of alternatives.
> > Cinelli sells a modern "cork" padded handlebar tape in color "nature"
> > (see http://www.bike24.net/p1319.html, bottom left sample), but it is
> > just a little bit to light in color to match with a Broks saddle.
> >
> > i wonder i it might be possible to put shellac on one o those tapes?
> > anybody ever tried it?
> >
> > thanks or any hints,
> >
> > Martin Appel
> > Munich, Germany
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > .
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:13:16 -0500
> From: mhoffman0@snet.net
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Re: Re: here
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> Your document.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 07:40:26 -0800 (PST)
> From: Mark Poore <rauler83@yahoo.com>
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]
> Ebay outing....Raleigh frame pump, Turbo saddles, '82 Tour book and more
> Message-ID: <20051110154027.3574.qmail@web53115.mail.yahoo.com>
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>
> Here is a list of things that are currently on Ebay or will start tonight at 11:00 pm est. There are some other on topic items so check sellers other items as well.
>
> Ending tonight
>
> 7193938175 1982 TOUR OF ITALY & TOUR DE FRANCE BOOK
>
> Up now
>
> 7195363849 VINTAGE RALEIGH 3 FRAME PUMP
>
> Starting tonight at 11:00pm EST
>
> 7195889853 Silca Impero frame pump with a Campagnolo end
>
> 7195957069 Shimano Dura Ace AX 27.2x200mm seatpost
>
> 7195914612 SELLE ITALIA TURBO SADDLE VINTAGE GC
>
> and more
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark Poore
>
> Slatyfork, WV
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:00:52 -0600
> From: "Ed Wagner" <e.j.wagner.jr@att.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: RE: [CR]shellac a "cork" handlebar tape?
> Message-ID: <MFBBLPPGEBEMGBKPMKFLAECACEAA.e.j.wagner.jr@att.net>
> In-Reply-To: <web-32459412@teamware-gmbh.de>
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>
> Besides the 'classic look' is there a functional reason to apply shellac?
>
> Ed Wagner
> Owasso, OK
>
> The spirit is willing but the flesh is middle-aged.
>
> http://cycledog.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of Martin Appel
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:57 AM
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]shellac a "cork" handlebar tape?
>
>
> shellacing a cloth handlebar tape is a nice way to give your bike a
> classic look.
>
> Sad thing is that cloth handlebar tape in colors other than black seems
> to have vanished rom the market; Rivendell is out of stock...
>
> so i thought of alternatives.
> Cinelli sells a modern "cork" padded handlebar tape in color "nature"
> (see http://www.bike24.net/p1319.html, bottom left sample), but it is
> just a little bit to light in color to match with a Broks saddle.
>
> i wonder i it might be possible to put shellac on one o those tapes?
> anybody ever tried it?
>
> thanks or any hints,
>
> Martin Appel
> Munich, Germany
> _______________________________________________
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:13:48 EST
> From: REClassicBikes@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Re: FS Campag chainring. 152 bcd. Unusual.
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> I have an unusual chainring FS. Its a pre '67 campagnolo one, 52 teeth for
> 3/32nd chains.
>
> The unusual bit is the large shoulder on the inside of the teeth circle.
> This makes it look like a track chainring although they are narrow 3/32nd chain
> teeth.
>
> Can any one shed any light on what this was for?
>
> Condition is used but Ok ish, surface is dull but not hugely scratched.
> Teeth have plenty of life left. $55 including airmail.
>
>
>
> Regards
> Martin Coopland, Scotland, http://www.BatesBicycles.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:22:01 -0500
> From: bjwebel@mac.com
> To: REClassicBikes@aol.com
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Re: FS Campag chainring. 152 bcd. Unusual.
> Message-ID: <8619293.1131639721165.JavaMail.bjwebel@mac.com>
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>
> On Thursday, November 10, 2005, at 11:13AM, <REClassicBikes@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >I have an unusual chainring FS. Its a pre '67 campagnolo one, 52 teeth for
> >3/32nd chains.
> >
> >The unusual bit is the large shoulder on the inside of the teeth circle.
> >This makes it look like a track chainring although they are narrow 3/32nd chain
> >teeth.
> >
> >Can any one shed any light on what this was for?
>
> Modern track equipment is made in 3/32nds in addition to 1/8, is it possible that this was done that long ago as well?
>
> Baird
> _____________________________________
> Baird Webel
> Washington DC
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:26:06 +0000
> From: "Reid Fisher" <reidfisher@hotmail.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]WTB: Carlton brake hoods
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> Just in case anyone runs across them, I'm looking for a pair of Carlton
> brake lever hoods. They'd go on a pair of Weinmann red dot brake levers, on
> my '64 Carlton Flyer. If I could even find just one (the left one) I'd be
> OK, since that's the only one that's really toast.
>
> NOS/used/repro/counterfeit - anything within the law's OK by me!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reid Fisher
> San Martin, California
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:34:33 +0000
> From: gpvb1@comcast.net
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR] Having your fake and eating it, too.
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> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:42:21 -0800
> From: "JB Froke" <jbfroke@msn.com>
> To: "classicrendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Having your fake and eating it, too.
>
> Someone suggested we quit this thread, but it wasn't Dale.... Besides,
> I'm not done pretending to be clever.
>
> You have $120. And I have three pairs of truly fine fake Campy hoods
> that you can have (any or all pairs) at $40 per; BUT I also have one
> pair of truly fine NOS Campy hoods that you can have for $100. (Now, all
> FOUR pairs to look at are just virtually indistinguishable). Next, what
> if I offered to put all four pairs in a Keno hopper, spin it like crazy
> and let you pick a pair, or two, for $50 per. If you obliged me thus
> far, what would you do?
>
> "The voice of the schoolboy rallies the ranks: 'Play up! play up! and
> play the game!'"
> Sir Henry John Newbolt, 'The Island Race' (1898)
>
> JB Froke, Pebble Beach CA
>
> Easy - under those circumstances, I'll pick the genuine ones, every single time. Not even difficult.
> One BIG flaw in your theory - the fakes don't look all that much like the real ones, especially in a side by side comparison! If they looked the same, we wouldn't be having this discussion....
> Greg Parker
> Dexter, Michigan
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:37:29 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> From: worthy2@earthlink.net
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Re: Shellac
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> Martin, Though I've never shellac-ed any cork myself, I see no reason why it can't be done. It may be a bit more absorbent than cotton fabric, but the cork shouldn't be harmed by the shellac once absorbed and cured. One caveat: most "cork" tape is made of cork bits blended with some kind of binder, either natural rubber or a synthetic, and the alcohol solvent in the shellac might have some bad effect on that material...so test it first.
> Another sidebar: I used to consider shellac to be a cheap, tacky wood finish, inferior to lacquers or polyurethane, until I was given a primer from a friend of mine who restores antique frames and artwork. He explained (by demonstrating) the difference between the common commercial shellac from a can (which he considers crap) and the stuff you "cut" yourself by desolving the hard resins in pure wood alcohol. There are different grades of both the resins and the alcohol, and when you care enough to use the best the difference is dramatic...really. And it's not that hard to prepare your own, either. The pure "museum grade" alcohol that he uses for his shellacs might also be safer on rubber, compared to the commercial stuff that's "denatured" with MEK and other poisons (if that turns out to be a problem area). As always, YRMV.
> Alan Goldsworthy
> SF, CA
>
> shellacing a cloth handlebar tape is a nice way to give your bike a
> classic look.
>
> Sad thing is that cloth handlebar tape in colors other than black seems
> to have vanished rom the market; Rivendell is out of stock...
>
> so i thought of alternatives.
> Cinelli sells a modern "cork" padded handlebar tape in color "nature"
> (see http://www.bike24.net/p1319.html, bottom left sample), but it is
> just a little bit to light in color to match with a Broks saddle.
>
> i wonder i it might be possible to put shellac on one o those tapes?
> anybody ever tried it?
>
> thanks or any hints,
>
> Martin Appel
> Munich, Germany
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:40:39 +0000
> From: gpvb1@comcast.net
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR] shellac a "cork" handlebar tape?
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> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:56:31 +0100
> From: "Martin Appel" <martin@camelot.de>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>
> Subject: [CR]shellac a "cork" handlebar tape?
>
> shellacing a cloth handlebar tape is a nice way to give your bike a
> classic look.
>
> Sad thing is that cloth handlebar tape in colors other than black seems
> to have vanished from the market; Rivendell is out of stock...
>
> so i thought of alternatives.
> Cinelli sells a modern "cork" padded handlebar tape in color "nature"
> (see http://www.bike24.net/p1319.html, bottom left sample), but it is
> just a little bit to light in color to match with a Broks saddle.
>
> i wonder i it might be possible to put shellac on one o those tapes?
> anybody ever tried it?
>
> thanks or any hints,
>
> Martin Appel
> Munich, Germany
>
> I have all of the colors of cloth tape in stock, as do others, I imagine. I sell a lot of white cloth to folks that are going to shellac it. Done properly, one can match a Honey Brooks saddle pretty well, I'm told....
>
> Greg Parker
> Dexter, Michigan
> http://www.bicycleclassics.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:51:08 -0500
> From: Fredrick Yavorsky <fred@twistcomm.com>
> To: "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR] shellac a "cork" handlebar tape?
> Message-ID: <BF98E4AC.F138%fred@twistcomm.com>
> In-Reply-To: <111020051640.20764.43737807000B509C0000511C2200761394CE0D909F09@comcast.net
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> Matching orange cloth (Harris Cyclery) to a brown Brooks. Done with clear
> varnish mixed with india ink. 3 coats.
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc028-fredyavorsky0805.html
> Fred
> **********************************
> Fred Yavorsky
> Jenkintown, PA
> fred@twistcomm.com
> http://twistcomm.com/FredBikes.html
>
>
>
> > Martin wrote:
> >
> > Subject: [CR]shellac a "cork" handlebar tape?
> >
> > shellacing a cloth handlebar tape is a nice way to give your bike a
> > classic look.
> >
> > Sad thing is that cloth handlebar tape in colors other than black seems
> > to have vanished from the market; Rivendell is out of stock...
> >
> > so i thought of alternatives.
> > Cinelli sells a modern "cork" padded handlebar tape in color "nature"
> > (see http://www.bike24.net/p1319.html, bottom left sample), but it is
> > just a little bit to light in color to match with a Broks saddle.
> >
> > i wonder i it might be possible to put shellac on one o those tapes?
> > anybody ever tried it?
> >
> > thanks or any hints,
> >
> > Martin Appel
> > Munich, Germany
> >
> > I have all of the colors of cloth tape in stock, as do others, I imagine. I
> > sell a lot of white cloth to folks that are going to shellac it. Done
> > properly, one can match a Honey Brooks saddle pretty well, I'm told....
> >
> > Greg Parker
> > Dexter, Michigan
> > http://www.bicycleclassics.com
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:56:42 -0800
> From: "Scott Peterson" <bobbycorno@bendbroadband.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Part it out or sell it whole?
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> This one will start a flame war for sure....
>
> I've got a mid-70's Motobecane Grand Record that will be up for sale soon.
> It's 90+% original, with period upgrades (Regina Oro chain, Dura Ace fw,
> black anodized Weinmann 500 brakes, Campy post), and in good, but not great,
> shape (some paint wear on top tube and chainstays, and a ding in the
> headtube). It's probably worth more parted than whole, but will I rot in
> the 7th circle of hell for parting it out?
>
> Scott Peterson
> Bend, OR
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> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:14:32 +0000
> From: <greenjersey@ntlworld.com>
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> Subject: [CR]Ray Green, Brighton, England
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> Hi, I have just enrolled on the site. I'm not an equipment fanatic although I find fairly interested.
>
> I started cycling in 1958. My first bike was a Carlton, cost £2. Only intersting feature was the oversized BB shell. Made by Chater-lea I believe. Pretty sure it used
> 5/16 inch balls.
> Next was a lugless Claud Butler. had a 1 1/8 inch top tube
> In 1964 I bought a Flying Scot. It had Simplex verticle drop outs, snapped twice. I took it to Harry Quinn who fitted campag ends in about twenty minutes! This included shortening the chain and seat stays to suit the new ends. He checked the tracking with a piece of timber ! Never broke again.
> In about 1978 I was on holiday in Nor Cal and saw a Philbrook- loved it. Back in Blighty I tried to find a Mr Phil. Brook ! I eventually tracked down Bill Philbrook in Gillingham, Kent. What a man He was the last word in frame bulders. His shop was Dickensian. He had been foreman for Claud Butler and had worked with Roberts, Gillot and Ron Cooper and no doubt many more. At the time he hada young American called Jeff (I think)working with him who had worked for a very well known London builder . What horror stories he told me.
> Bill died in the eighties. I believe I have the last solo frame he built.
> In 2003 aged 59 I decided to ride P-B-P so I got a Roberts frame. Chas said as I was so "lardy" (6ft 3in 15 stone) I need Columbus Max. Fine frame but maybe the chainstays are too stiff for 1240 km in 80 hours. Certainly I finished with a sore ar..
> As a change from Audax in 2004 I decided to ride the track here in Brighton. I got Terry Dolan that had been used by the British track team. Almost new frame but old equipment. The wheels are 28 spoke campag L.F tied and soldered with dark grey Martano rims. I've never heard of the brand before. I can hang in the group with the young guys so I must be doing something right.
> When I get the hang of the technology I'll send some photos of my Philbrook. The workmanship will amaze you.
> Hope I didn't go on too long but I've been a cycling club member for 47 years so I've worn out a fair bit of kit.
> Finally my real love is the Ronde Van Vlaanderen. That race is just the greatest. Ray Green, Brighton England
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