Wow - not sure what this is all about....
I responded to "engineer" - very nice gent named George. From what I can tell he is not really interested in selling the bikes at all - just wanted to know something about them. They've been in his family and he was curious.
I'm usually very interested in helping folks sort out these types of bikes properly as it often means preventing someone from doing harm or discarding rare and impossible to replace items. Now he knows he really should try to find the racks that are missing from the bikes - he thinks they may be around.
I also turned him onto Jan's site as well. He had made a very reluctant post to another list and got sent to the CR list. Most of the posts he received on the other list were lacking in substance.
My expertise (if I really have any) has never yielded me a terribly great reward. If folks want Herse or Singer advise (for whatever it is worth) I'm always happy to give my two cents. Heck, I usually give my advise when it isn't event wanted which is worse.
Mike Kone in Boulder CO
> It would be nice if the Engineer would identify himself as a CR member or
> not.
> It's not nice to want something for nothing.
> I have no problem helping fellow clubmembers. That's why we buy sell, and
> exchange knowledge as members.
> It's a give and take that balances out.
> The CR List is not the United States Information Agency.
> If the gentleman is not a member than I hope no one gives him the time of
> day.
> If he is, but this is his first venture out of anonymity, then I apologize.
> Knowledge hard gained and shared with friends is not meant to be ripped off.
> Let's not be enablers, gentlemen.
> Let people pay a consultation fee, please, or at least make a donation to
> Dale's costs.
> How much does an engineer charge for his knowledge, consultation, and
> service? Doctor? Lawyer?
> We know as much respectively as they do, free eggs and pickles went off the
> bar long ago.
> Respectfully,
> Ted Ernst
> Palos Verdes Estates, CA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Engineer" <engineer2277@yahoo.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 6:27 PM
> Subject: [CR]Help identifying Rene Herse/Alex Singer
>
>
> > Help identifying Rene Herse/Alex Singer
> >
> > Sorry to bother but I was looking for help
> > identifying a couple of bikes I got from my
> > aunt and uncle a number of years ago.
> > I think they were custom made late 60's early 70's
> > touring, his- Rene Herse hers- Alex Singer "girls
> > bike".
> > I have a website with pictures.
> >
> > http://www.angelfire.com/
> >
> > If anyone can help me date or give any idea of what
> > they
> > are worth I'd appreciate it. Please email:
> >
> > engineer2277@yahoo.com
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > George
> >
> >
> > FROM WEBSITE
> >
> > Rene Herse
> >
> > Men's Lugged Frame
> > Paint - Original (Blue - Gold hand painted lettering)
> > Tubing - Vitus
> > Crank - R Herse
> > handle bar - racing
> > stem - made for front brake cable to pass through
> > Chainrings - 48/28?
> > Brakes - Center Pull
> >
> > front derailleur - ?
> > rear derailleur - Simplex (5 - speed)
> >
> > shifters - downtube
> >
> > Other: front fork/seat stay brazed on studs
> > rear derailleur cable runs on top of chain stay with
> > protector wire
> > external rear brake cabling may not be original /
> > braze-ons under top tube
> > Note: Pictures have non-original seat/pedals
> >
> > Alex Singer
> >
> > Women's Lugged Frame
> >
> > Paint - Original (White - Red hand painted lettering)
> > Tubing -
> > Crank - [DURALUMIN CEGEDUR FORCE]
> >
> > handlebar - moustache
> > stem - made for front brake cable to pass through
> > Chainings triple
> > Brakes - MAFAC
> > Headset - campy
> > rear derailleur - campy nuovo record (simplex touring
> > extension)
> > front derailleur - campy
> > shifters - bar end
> > Rims - Rigida
> >
> > Other: triple rear triangle
> >
> > Note: Pictures have non-original seat/pedals
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________
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