[CR]Re: LUGGED FRAMES VERUS FILLET BRAZED FRAMES

(Example: Component Manufacturers:Avocet)

Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 06:15:53 -0800 (PST)
From: "Syke - Deranged Few M/C" <sykerocker@yahoo.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <MONKEYFOODpzlXySilO00000c6a@monkeyfood.nt.phred.org>
Subject: [CR]Re: LUGGED FRAMES VERUS FILLET BRAZED FRAMES

Why are we so biased against non-lugged frames? I can venture a one-word guess that probably answers that question:

Schwinn

C'mon, thirty-forty years ago, a REAL lover of bicycles rode something made in Europe with a lugged frame. The mass-market, non-cognescenti (sp?) who knew nothing about bicycles and wouldn't appreciate them if they did rode Schwinn's (or worse, Columbias, Murrays, Huffys, etc.).

Big heavy well-constructed bikes that had absolutely no snob value, no ability to show that you were something special out there cranking down the road. Yeah, I know, they're welded frames, not brazed - the bias continues anyway, even if just in the back of our minds. How often do you read the discussion of anything Schwinn, unless the word Paramount is automatically attached?

George R. "Syke" Paczolt Montpelier, VA

classicrendezvous-request@bikelist.org wrote: Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 00:50:56 +0000 From: hersefan@comcast.net To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]LUGGED FRAMES VERUS FILLET BRAZED FRAMES Message-ID: <120220050050.9696.438F9A700004FC60000025E02206424613020E000A9C9D0A08@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 1

Many of the best vintage lightweights were lugless. Alex Singer, Herse, Routans, all did gorgeous lugless frames. They were lighter and very sought after, especially in the 40's and 50's.

And don't forget Reyhand - the one that got it right first. Gorgeous Fillet brazing.

Oh - and that Bill Hurlow guy accross the channel did some fabulous fillet brazed frames as well.

And the gorgeous fillet brazed frame that Kurt Goodrich did a year or so ago.

Why do we like lugs so much anyway? (maybe cause a silver brazed luged frame construction is sooo much more gentle on the pre-air hardened steel perhaps?)

Mike Kone in Boulder CO

Syke Deranged Few M/C

"I think, therefore, I am neither Republican, nor Democrat, just unpopular." ---anon

"The only good bureaucrat is one with a pistol at his head. Put it in his hand and it's good-bye to the Bill of Rights." ---H. L. Mencken

---------------------------------
Yahoo! Personals
Let fate take it's course directly to your email.
See who's waiting for you Yahoo! Personals