Steven; The KOF might be a personal decision, but if we go by the guidelines set out by Dale, exactly what Dale means by welded is open to interpretation. Maybe Dale could pipe up and give a more detailed definition. I guess it depends for now on your interpretation of what Dales describes as welded. If my interests still took me away from bikes of the U.K. I would certainly love to have a few of the original Titaniums in my grouping like Speedwell & Teledyne. Since Dale lists both frames on the CR pages, I would guess that sets a precedent for the list, and a shop like Merlin could be considered KOF.
I've been reading the discussion of the F1 Racer from afar, and not commmenting much so far, but if Merlin started up in 1986, and the F1 racer originated in 1983, either someone else produced the F1 or Steve's recollections were incorrect and the F1 was produced later. I would like to see more information on the F1 as far as actual production date, and exactly what company did produce the original cycles but I'm not quite sure if it fits within the guidelines of the CR.
Peter Naiman Glendale, WI
Steven Willis <smwillis@verizon.net> wrote: My two cents says that KOF is more of a personal definition . I would tag KOF as a quality issue more so then lugs or no lugs. ;^} Steven Steven Willis 1778 East Second Street Scotch Plains NJ 07076 908-322-3330 http://www.thebikestand.com
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [CR]NOW: Keeper of the Flame status Was: F1 Racer
> While I would admit to the fact that Merlin's Cielo frame is interesting,
> I
> dont think it is KOF any more than a fillet brazed Land Shark is
> Mike Schmidt
> Stirling, NJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Schmidt"
> To: "Classic Rendezvous"
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 4:46 PM
> Subject: [CR]NOW: Keeper of the Flame status Was: F1 Racer
>
>
>> Steve Leitgen wrote:
>> >
>> (snip)
>> > So going back to the list focus.
>> > The Merlin F1 I rode was built before 1983.
>> > It was hand built by custom framebuilders in the Merlin shop. (Keeper
>> > of the flame)...
>>
>>
>> Discussion...
>>
>> Is Merlin considered KoF?
>>
>> I think the agreed upon definition of a Keeper of the Flame would be
>> lugged steel frame construction.
>>
>> Agree or disagree?
>>
>> Chuck Schmidt
>> Soouth Pasadena, Southern California
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