Ray, I agree they all refer to them as welded frames in their brochures or what my cycling generation know as lugless. This is what they should be called. Another interesting point is that the lugless (welded) frame tended to be the makers cheaper option. Purvis, Ephgrave and while we are talking about this maker I noticed the VCC magazine was up to its usual myth makings "Salmon's rare lugless frame" might be rare now but this was the mainstay of Les Ephgraves early production. I was told for every seven frames they produced four would be lugless, two were No.2's and one a No.1. Might be rare now certainly not back in their early heyday. Paris's cheapest frames were the "Type Homme" and Professional both lugless, Tom Board, Jack Jones and Clive Parker told me that these were the frames the apprentices had to start on when they first got building. Claud Butler all their lugless frames were the cheap option Buccaneer, All-Rounder, Super Velo and Super Arrow all lugless and cheap or affordable depending on your description. I asked Fred Higgins to quote on a trike just before he packed up and the lugless one was considerably cheaper than the lugged. Finally Jack Taylor always referred to their lugless frames as welded design, I know they produced most of their models in the two types lugged or lugless and normally used the prefix Super for the lugged version, Clubman (Lugless) Super Clubman (Lugged). Was there a difference in the price? I think a lot of marketing hype ans salesmanship are employed selling lugless frames today. Could this possibly be that the supply of lugs is running out and steel frames will have to be produced in lugless form soon? Best wishes from Mick who use to lug his Claud up two flights of stairs daily.
> My 1902 Collins English English dictionary describes
> welding as "to unite pieces of iron by beating or
> compression" ! In the 1970 edition that had changed
> to
> "to join pieces of heated, plastic metal by fusion
> without soldering materials. This proves either
> lexicographers aren't up to the job or the meaning
> of words change over time, or maybe both.
> I've just looked through a few of my 1950's Sporting
> Cyclist mags and any number of builders are listing
> "welded" frames. I'll stick with lugless.
> Ray Green Brighton England
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Thats all for now. Keep those wheels spinning, in your memories if not still on the road. Be lucky Mick Butler Huntingdon UK.
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