Re: [CR]"Bespoke" French Builders of RACING Bikes

(Example: Framebuilders:Pino Morroni)

Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 11:31:30 -0800 (PST)
From: "Fred Rafael Rednor" <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]"Bespoke" French Builders of RACING Bikes
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <380-220051237165421804@M2W058.mail2web.com>


Peter,
     If had been in France at the time, we would have known! But I think thinks might have been done differently in France, as well. Certainly, you could have visited the shop that made later made bikes under the Cyfac name or you could have visited Bernard Carre on your own. But as Norris Lockley recently mentioned "Bernard Carre" bikes were often raced as Peugeots, LeJeunes, etc. In fact, here's a Carre track bike disguised as a LeJeune (scroll down to the photo of the seatstay cap): http://www.bikecult.com/works/archive/04bicycles/lejeunePR.html My own limited experience in France during 1983 was that you could go to a well known shop or showroom, get measured, and the actual builder - being an "atalier" on the other side of town - sort of remained in the background.
     It's hard for me to say who would ahve actually painted the frame (perhaps Norris could supply that sort of information) but it would have been good enough to prevent any rusting.
      Cheers,
      Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)


--- "kohl57@starpower.net" wrote:


> OK, it's circa 1975-83. I want to buy a primo quality, custom
> made Frenc
> h
> RACING bike. All caps because I don't want anything like a
> "demi course"
> or
> a "randonneur". Or an all-chrome fancy pants bike to pose on
> les
> boulevards. I want something that could (or should) be raced.
> Somethin
> g on
> which to hang all those delicious
> Spidel-Simplex-Maillard-Mafac components
>
> of the era. Fast, light, aggressive. And French.
>
> So who would I have gone to? Were there indeed any such
> French makers
> during this time? Other than the Prestige division of Peugeot
> or the oth
> er
> big makers? Most of what I've seen of the famous Herse and
> Singer et.
> al.
> don't seem to fit the bill.
>
> Peter Kohler
> Washington DC USA
>
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