> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 20:12:25 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Michael Butler <pariscycles@yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [CR]J-P Routens
> To: Fred Rafael Rednor <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>
>
> Fred,
> Sure were plus some other stuff I can't remember. I
> went there (Grenoble) with Tony Oliver in 1980 great
> stuff they had a lot of TdeF bikes built purely for
> climbing in there, I remember Tony saying lovely and
> light for the accent but I'm not so sure for the
> descent!
>
> --- Fred Rafael Rednor <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Were they also the vendor of the JPR seat posts
> that
> > were
> > common on French bicycles in the 1970s and 1980s?
> I
> > specifically said "vendor" because I would have to
> > think that
> > the posts were actually manufactured (to their
> > design
> > specifications) by some factory in the St. Etienne
> > area.
> > Regards,
> > Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)
> >
> > --- Jan Heine <heine93@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Jean-Pierre Routens (spelling!) is the son of
> Jo.
> > He took
> > > over the
> > > shop in the 1970s. Today, it's a modern, large
> > bike shop. A
> > > few
> > > custom frames, plus a lot of far-eastern imports
> > labeled J-P
> > > Routens.
> > > I visited after Paris-Brest-Paris in 1999 and
> was
> > very
> > > disappointed.
> > > The staff hadn't even heard of the TA crank
> > washers I wanted
> > > to buy -
> > > it was Shimano or Campagnolo for them.
> > >
> > > The bike ride from the Mediterranean to Grenoble
> > was lovely,
> > > but the
> > > shop wasn't worth the visit. Any high-end U.S.
> > bike shop
> > > basically
> > > looks the same.
> > >
> > > Like so many recent French builders, Jean-Paul
> > Routens tried
> > > to
> > > improve upon the work of the older
> constructeurs,
> > but those
> > > who have
> > > ridden both his and his father's machines
> > unequivocally
> > > prefer the
> > > older ones. Maybe it is stifling the younger
> > generations'
> > > creativity,
> > > but following the act of Jo Routens, Rene Herse
> > and Alex
> > > Singer/Ernest Csuka is tough. Today, the
> superior
> > ride of the
> > > old
> > > bikes is embodied more by some U.S. makers, like
> > the Peter
> > > Weigle
> > > tested in the last issue of VBQ, than in the
> > "spiritual
> > > heirs" J-P
> > > Routens and G. Berthoud. Most of the newer
> French
> > bikes are
> > > good, but
> > > not great.
> > >
> > > Jan Heine, Seattle
> > > Editor/Publisher
> > > Vintage Bicycle Quarterly
> > > c/o Il Vecchio Bicycles
> > > 140 Lakeside Ave, Ste. C
> > > Seattle WA 98122
> > > http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com
> > >
> > >
> > > >Is Jean Pierre Routen the same person as Jo
> > Routens? Lou
> > > Deeter, Orlando FL
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Michael Butler <pariscycles@yahoo.co.uk>
> > > >To: CR Rendezvous
> > <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > > >Sent: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 17:17:46 +0000 (GMT)
> > > >Subject: Re: [CR]"Bespoke" French Builders of
> > RACING Bikes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Jean Pierre Routen Grenoble. Or JPR as we could
> > never
> > > >pronounce it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Thats all for now. Keep those wheels spinning,
> in
> > your
> > > memories if
> > > >not still on
> > > >the road. Be lucky Mick Butler Huntingdon UK.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> Thats all for now. Keep those wheels spinning, in
> your memories if not still on the road. Be lucky
> Mick Butler Huntingdon UK.
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Thats all for now. Keep those wheels spinning, in your memories if not still on the road. Be lucky Mick Butler Huntingdon UK.
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