[CR]WTB: five TA bolts

(Example: Production Builders:Teledyne)

From: "Neill Currie" <neill_currie@comcast.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 22:37:06 -0500
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Subject: [CR]WTB: five TA bolts

Hi I need a set of 5 of the very small TA cyclotouriste spider bolts (the ones that fit very close to the crankarm. Anyone got a set? I am not fussy about condition. Thanks

Neill "n+1 bikes=bliss" Currie Hillsborough, Nh, USA.

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> 1. Ebay Olympic Paramount track frame? (Steve Birmingham)
> 2. for sale./ seat post and wheels
> 3. Fying Gates (Michael Butler)
> 4. Re: Ebay Olympic Paramount track frame? (Joe Bender-Zanoni)
> 5. for sale correction
> 6. Campagnolo brake levers - again (peter geldard)
> 7. Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 36, Issue 55 Mudguards in races
> 8. Re: Fying Gates (Michael Butler)
> 9. For Sale: NEW "The Dancing Chain" - 2nd edition. Duplicate copy
> not needed. (David Patrick)
> 10. The Dancing Chain book has been sold. Thanks!! (David Patrick)
> 11. frame swap.or ??
> 12. Re: Cinelli Enthusiast
> 13. P-B-P
> 14. RE: Anyone up for a Brevette in San Diego? (joel metz)
> 15. another frame swap or ??
> 16. mavic seat clamp bolt
> 17. RE: Giro d Italia Fashion- because Angel asked (Mark Cutrufelli)
> 18. Wtd. zeus front derailleur. (dave martinez)
> 19. Ideale saddle questions (Tom Sanders)
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> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 15:25:24 -0500
> From: "Steve Birmingham" <sbirmingham@mindspring.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Ebay Olympic Paramount track frame?
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> I'm looking at this frame on Ebay.
>
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
> pagenam
> e=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
>
> Item # 7203816760
>
>
> It looks interesting, but has no real identifying marks like decals
> headbadge, or serial #
> Is it at all likely to be a team paramount as he's claiming, or just an
> interesting old frame.
> If it's probably really used in the games, It's pretty interesting, but
> otherwise, it seems
> a bit pricy for a cracked frame
>
> Steve Birmingham
> Lowell,Ma
> USA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 15:52:15 EST
> From: Rnitro1969@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]for sale./ seat post and wheels
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> greetings
>
> seat posts.
>
> campy 25.0 single bolt
> $45.00 shipped U.S.
>
> dura ace 25.4
> $40.00 shipped U.S.
> hope not off topic.
>
>
> KALLOY 25.0
> $15.00 SHIPPED u.s.
>
>
> WHEELS
>
> MAILLARD HUBS?
> MAVIC MA2 RIMS /STAINLESS SPOKES
> 36 HOLE/ SPCIALIZED TURBO/LR
> 700X25C TIRES /JOYTECH AND
> KALLOY SKEWERS.
> THESE WHEELS ARE FROM A
> DISPLAY BIKE /ALMOST NEW
> CONDITION.
> $125.00 SHIPPED . U.S.
>
> thanks
> robbie fellows
> lakewood,ca.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:56:59 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Michael Butler <pariscycles@yahoo.co.uk>
> To: CR Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR] Fying Gates
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> If anyone is interested in acquiring a TJ Flying Gate
> there is one being offered on ebay:
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FLYING-GATE-TREVOR-JARVIS-23-25inches-CtoT_W0QQitemZ6585492920QQcategoryZ69825QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> This is the wonderful modern version of the 1936 W&R
> Bianes VS37 or Whirlwind.
> These modern Gates were very popular with British time
> triallist's in the late 70's and early 80's, they even
> sponsored a professional UK/Belgium team TJ
> Cycles-Glemp and the great British rider Bob Cary rode
> for them.
> They also made tandems and tricycles the axle was also
> made by Trevor Jarvis. The Gate design works very well
> as a tricycle and makes a good stiff tricycle frame.
> They are still being made today and unlike a lot of
> the modern British makers they have a very good
> informative website.
> http://www.tjcycles.co.uk/
> Other equally interesting SWB British classic frames
> of a similar design are the Silver Meteor Hackney
> London, Waller Kingsbury and Kingsland London, Betrand
> Solite Tandem Finchley London.
> No connection with ebay seller or TJ Cycles but an
> admirer of a British KOF who still manufactures a
> design classic.
>
> Thats all for now. Keep those wheels spinning, in your memories if not
> still on the road. Be lucky Mick Butler Huntingdon UK.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 15:57:15 -0500
> From: Joe Bender-Zanoni <joebz@optonline.net>
> To: Steve Birmingham <sbirmingham@mindspring.com>
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Ebay Olympic Paramount track frame?
> Message-ID: <439B412B.4050402@optonline.net>
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> It sure looks like the Paramount brazing of the rear fork ends. Thats
> pretty distictive.
> Then the rest of the bike is atypical so it seems like a special. It
> looks like the left seatstay cap needs a repair also. No heavy cast end
> on that guy.
>
> Joe Bender-Zanoni
> Great Notch, NJ
>
> Steve Birmingham wrote:
>
>>I'm looking at this frame on Ebay.
>>
>>http://ebay.com/<blah>
>>pagenam
>>e=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
>>
>>Item # 7203816760
>>
>>
>>It looks interesting, but has no real identifying marks like decals
>>headbadge, or serial #
>>Is it at all likely to be a team paramount as he's claiming, or just an
>>interesting old frame.
>>If it's probably really used in the games, It's pretty interesting, but
>>otherwise, it seems
>>a bit pricy for a cracked frame
>>
>>Steve Birmingham
>>Lowell,Ma
>>USA
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
> ------------------------------
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> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:02:35 EST
> From: Rnitro1969@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]for sale correction
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> greetings
>
> sr laprade seat post 25.0
> not kalloy
> 15.00 dollars shipped U.S.
>
> thanks
> robbie fellows
> lakewood,ca.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 21:16:41 -0000
> From: "peter geldard" <peter.geldard@virgin.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Campagnolo brake levers - again
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> I think there are a lot of misconseptions about the early vs late super
> record brake levers. Campagnolo produced levers in one way only - by
> stamping out a sheet and then cutting/bending it to the shape of the
> lever. Any levers that are drilled are merely record levers that have
> been drilled out. This is why very often they have a different amount of
> holes.
> Campagnolo first generation super record levers were produced between
> 1973 and 1977 and had the longer shallower curve and they were all bent
> after having the holes put in. If you find some with round holes then
> they started life as record levers and were drilled out.
> The type Mr Denny refers to as "first generation" are nothing of the
> sort. They are post CPSC levers so are the second type of lever. Nothing
> really changed from then on save from the "brev camp" being removed from
> the cable stop ends.
> Mr Denny certainly does know a lot but I do not think that his expertise
> is campagnolo going by past dealings with him.
>
> Peter Geldard
> Surrey
> UK
>
> cold but dry !!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:33:02 EST
> From: Crumpy6204@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 36, Issue 55 Mudguards in
> races
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> I raced in the late 40s and early 50s in the Midlands,(NOW West Midlands)
> I
> NEVER used mudguards in ANY race, I ALLWAYS used them to train and ride
> to
> events, THEN I removed them and everything else I could, without the bike
> falling apart, for the race, Mudguards of any type caused wind
> restistance, ALSO
> the chap behind you gets all your spray in his face, anything to win
> RIGHT!!!! John Crump Oldbrit, Parker Co. USA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 21:34:04 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Michael Butler <pariscycles@yahoo.co.uk>
> To: Rnitro1969@aol.com
> Cc: CR Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Fying Gates
> Message-ID: <20051210213404.35635.qmail@web25304.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
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> Robbie,
> Try this 6585492920 or sellers ID chaterpedal.
> Cheers Mick Hunts UK
> --- Rnitro1969@aol.com wrote:
>
>> can you give me the number.
>> other number not working.
>>
>> thanks robbie
>>
>
>
> Thats all for now. Keep those wheels spinning, in your memories if not
> still on the road. Be lucky Mick Butler Huntingdon UK.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:52:49 -0800 (PST)
> From: David Patrick <patrick-ajdb@sbcglobal.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]For Sale: NEW "The Dancing Chain" - 2nd edition. Duplicate
> copy
> not needed.
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> As the title of this email says, I have a NEW copy of "The Dancing Chain",
> revised 2nd edition, for sale. I not only bought a copy myself, but a
> friend sent me a copy as well, and there's really no need to have two of
> these, now is there? $30 plus $5 shipping and I'm Paypal friendly.
> Amazon is currently selling this title for $54.96, so my price is a pretty
> good deal, wouldn't you say? Many thanks.
>
>
> Dave Patrick
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:00:40 -0800 (PST)
> From: David Patrick <patrick-ajdb@sbcglobal.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]The Dancing Chain book has been sold. Thanks!!
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> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 17:06:54 EST
> From: Rnitro1969@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]frame swap.or ??
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> greetings
>
> looking to swap a 56cm /c-t vitus
> silver frame for a 55-56 cm /c-t
> purple or red vitus..
>
> also i have what seems to
> be a lejuene 58cm/c-t frame
> no decals,just reynolds 531 sticker.
> tswap for a 55-56cm /c-t lejuene
> preffered or something.
>
> thanks
> robbie fellows
> lakewood,ca.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 22:33:02 +0000
> From: gpvb1@comcast.net
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR] Cinelli Enthusiast
> Message-ID:
> <121020052233.28667.439B579D000EFF8900006FFB2206999735CE0D909F09@comcast.net>
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> Tom:
> I would recommend eBay as the place to best determine the value of (and
> sell) that Cinelli. True horror stories on eBay, which are fairly rare,
> are generally on the buying side of the equation, FWIW. I doubt that you
> would get much activity from scammers if you wanted to sell your bike on
> eBay. It's not going to be "high-dollar" enough for them to try for a "big
> payoff."
> Greg Parker
> Ann Arbor, Michigan
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 00:37:42 -0600
> From: tom@playguitar.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Cinelli Enthusiast
>
> Thank you all for helping me to identify my Cinelli. The consensus
> seemed to be that it was made around 1981.
>
> My original intention was to restore my Cinelli, but I have
> just been presented with a family emergency, and have no alternative
> but to sell it.
>
> Where would be the best place to find a caring and educated Cinelli
> enthusiast?
> I really don't want to sell it on ebay, as I have heard the horror
> stories.
>
> Tom Freeland
> Austin, TX USA
>
>
> tpc> Hello,
>
> tpc> I am in the process of restoring my Cinelli, but the first digit of
> tpc> the serial number is marred.
>
> tpc> I put up a gallery of closeups of all parts of the Cinelli, hoping
> tpc> that you would be able to help me identify it properly.
>
> tpc> Even if you have no idea, go and check out the gallery of this
> tpc> beautiful mostly original Cinelli, to appreciate the fine
> craftsmanship
> that went into
> tpc> creating it. I especially love the engraved Coat of Arms on the
> tpc> handlebars.
>
> tpc> http://www.playguitar.com/cinelli/
>
> tpc> If you need pictures of something I missed, please email me and I
> will
> tpc> be happy to take them.
>
> tpc> Thanks,
>
> tpc> Tom
> tpc> Texas, USA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:05:03 +0000
> From: <greenjersey@ntlworld.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]P-B-P
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> You guys are getting too excited! Next one is 2007 and if you miss that
> you'll have to wait until 2011 as it's every four years. It is normally
> second or third week of August.
> I rode in 2003, aged 59, and I didn't even think about entering until I
> had a sub 35hr 600km under my belt.
> If you have time to kill you could take a look at
> http://www.southportcycling.co.uk/audax where I report what a fun time I had !
> Ray Green, Brighton, England
>
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> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 15:20:22 -0800
> From: joel metz <magpie@blackbirdsf.org>
> To: "brianbaylis@juno.com" <brianbaylis@juno.com>
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: RE: [CR]Anyone up for a Brevette in San Diego?
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>
> next pbp is august/september 2007. ill see you there. i rode in 2003
> for the first time, and resolved immediately to ride it every 4 years
> until i cant. :)
>
> if all goes according to plan, ill be riding this:
>
> http://www.blackbirdsf.org/taylor/8467.html
>
> i say 200k to 300k isnt the big jump - if you can ride a 200k in 13.5
> hours, you can probably ride a 300k in 18. i found the 400k
> significantly more difficult than the 300k, and then the 600k was
> only more difficult because of the time constraint. (half the
> distance of pbp in less than half the time.
>
> im planning not to beat my 2003 time of 89h17m, but to get more
> sleep, eating, and sightseeing in during that time :)
>
> -joel (my pre and post pbp log at
> http://www.blackbirdsf.org/randonneuring/2003_index.html)
>
>
> At 06:50 +0000 12.10.2005, brianbaylis@juno.com wrote:
>>I know for sure I won't be able to do enough riding before the framebuil
>>ders show to go beyond the 200KM. I will however start to ride with the
>>group that does centuries every weekend after the show and begin working
>> up to the greater distances. I'm thinking PBP in maybe 2008 or 09, but
>>you never know. Perhaps if I can have the pesky 3rd arm growing out of m
>>y back removed, the savings in weight and energy to operate it might be
>>enough to get me there. We'll see, but I suspect 2007 will be a tad too
>>soon for me. What time of year is PBP?
>>
>>
>>-- "Matthew Gorski" <bikenut@verizon.net> wrote:
>>Brian,
>>Count me in...I'll ride the red Rene Herse with Christmas fresh
>>Dugast fatties (thanks Sterling) ....but what about the 300K/400K
>>
>>600K rides ;^) Should we plan an all-vintage PBP outing in 2007?
>>AeroTour in Paris?? AutoMoto on parade?? Quel est prochain ?
>
> --
> joel metz : magpie@blackbirdsf.org : http://www.blackbirdsf.org/
> bike messengers worldwide : ifbma : http://www.messengers.org/
> portland, oregon
> ==
> i know what innocence looks like - and it wasn't there,
> after she got that bicycle...
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:55:02 EST
> From: Rnitro1969@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]another frame swap or ??
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> greetings
>
> i have a trek 700
> full reynolds 531
> 57cm/c-t
> looking for a 55-56cm/c-t trek
> 531 with trek lugs.
> this bike has a few scrathes
> but overall in great shape.
>
> thanks
> robbie fellows
> lakewood,ca.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:08:23 EST
> From: Rnitro1969@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]mavic seat clamp bolt
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> greetings
>
> did mavic makea seat bolt with
> their name stamped on it.
> anyone have one for sale.
>
> thanks
> robbie fellows
> lakewood,ca.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:41:10 -0500
> From: "Mark Cutrufelli" <rena.cutrufelli@comcast.net>
> To: "'Mark Cutrufelli'" <rena.cutrufelli@comcast.net>,
> "'Angel Garcia'" <veronaman@gmail.com>,
> "'CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS'" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Cc: Matteo Brandi <cheroketz@libero.it>
> Subject: RE: [CR]Giro d Italia Fashion- because Angel asked
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> I found one more link to a store that sells Giro D'Italia Retro gear and
> they sell to USA too:
>
> http://www.prendas.co.uk/giro-leisure.asp
>
>
> Previously I mentioned only this one:
>
> http://www.cbike.com/giroditalia2.htm
>
> Angel this is great stuff. I bought one and when you do you will feel as
> Italian as me and Matteo.
>
> Mark Cutrufelli
> in Laurel, MD
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 17:38:08 -0800 (PST)
> From: dave martinez <dmart84815@yahoo.com>
> To: CR List <ClassicRendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Wtd. zeus front derailleur.
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> Hello All,
>
> Anyone out there have a new or like zeus 2000 (GS?) clamp-on front
> derailleur that they'd be willing to sell?
> Its for the Raysport.
> I had just completed test riding the mostly zeus 2000 equipped Raysport
> and good practice dictates that I go over all the fittings on the bike
> (making sure everything is tight) before embarking on an extended cruise
> around the 'hood.
> So... I found what appeared to be a loose front derailleur clamp. I
> tighten the thing while thinking how I just avoided the disaster of a
> front derailleur scratching its way down the seattube, then bang! The
> clamp-on band breaks, the zeus myth becomes reality and perpetuates
> itself.
>
> Oh, the Raysport did ride fantastic.
>
> Regards,
> Dave Martinez
> Fremont Ca
> twice bitten??
>
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 21:29:50 -0500
> From: "Tom Sanders" <tsan7759142@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Ideale saddle questions
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> I just brought home a bike with an Ideale saddle. the bike is from
> '73-'76
> and seems 100% original and the saddle shows a great deal of age. I and
> another person have read the model number (No easy task...very difficult
> to
> see) and it seems to us to say "89". Now I have never heard of a model 89
> although there is an 88 and a 90. It is fairly likely we are misreading
> it
> and it is really "39". It has "Ideale" stamped into each rivet on the
> top
> of the saddle and I can't recall that the 39s I have seen have this. Am I
> just not remembering right? Has anyone heard of a model 89?
> Hopefully by tomorrow I'll have some decent pics, but I have just been
> swamped all day.
> Thanks all,
> Tom Sanders
> Lansing, Mi
>
>
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