Re: [CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 36, Issue 64 MudguardsFenders????

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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:35:16 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Michael Butler" <pariscycles@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 36, Issue 64 MudguardsFenders????
To: ternst <ternst1@cox.net>
In-Reply-To: <00a601c5ff41$5b5bb0e0$0200a8c0@D8XCLL51>
cc: CR Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

Dear Ted, I think Grumpy has it wrong on this. I never normally post without references but these would have been far to long to verify my statement. But if you care to look through old editions of Cycling's, Bicyclings, The Second Fifty Years of Road Riding, I00 Years of Cycling Records and Cycling Lands End to John O'Groats you can see for yourself.
>From one hopeless time trialer who has been past very quickly by all the greats consequently due to my very slow pedal cadence and speed I had plenty of time to have a good butchers (look). Slow moving but very fast thinking and an impeccable memory. Did say long distance there are some wonderful pictures of aces sporting, front spearpoint extensions, full guards and the short racing types. Best wishes Mick Hunts UK.


--- ternst wrote:


> I would suspect that the shorty guards kept larger
> clumps of stuff from
> splatting up and probably protected the lower fork
> race / cup from the total
> washing out or gritting that would destroy it in no
> time at all. Not to
> mention the stuff coming up so hard under your
> saddle.
> Obviously it all got soaked in an extended ride, but
> it should have
> protected for a while, better than nothing.
> Ted Ernst
> Palos Verdes Estates, Ca
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Crumpy6204@aol.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:19 AM
> Subject: [CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 36,
> Issue 64
> MudguardsFenders????
>
>
> > Once again, as a chap that raced for the Midland
> C&AC in the late 40s and
> > early 50s I, TT in 25 to 100mile and 24 hour,PLUS
> Massed start events, in
> > NOW
> > the West Midlands, In NOW the UK, I and all my
> team mates, including John
> > Pottier, Les Wilmott Jack Simpson, John Chance,
> John Bradbury(Now decesed)
> > to the
> > best of my knowledge NEVER RACED with mudguards
> (Fenders) On. We all did
> > use
> > them for training, as a courtesy to our fellow
> riders, and to get to
> > events, I also raced against Bob Maitland , Ken
> Joy, the Higginson Twins,
> > etc in
> > many events and I NEVER saw anyone with Mudguards
> on, NOW IT IS POSSIBLE
> > that as
> > Mick says some riders DID use them in long
> distance events, for what
> > reason
> > I can not understand, If it was raining (when was
> it NOT) you would get
> > wet
> > no matter, if you had mudguards or not!!! the
> extra wind resitance that
> > they
> > would give I would think would go against them. I
> DO think (Boy thats
> > dangerous) that bikes look better WITH Mudguards
> and in the winter
> > months I do
> > equip all my Brit stable with them. I use Bluemels
> now, all kind of
> > colours, BUT
> > in the 50s white or black seemed to be the most
> used. Cheers John Crump
> > Oldbrit, Parker Co. USA,
> >
> >
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Thats all for now. Keep those wheels spinning, in your memories if not still on the road. Be lucky Mick Butler Huntingdon UK.

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