Re: [CR]Windsor Cinelli?

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From: "Charles T. Young" <youngc@netreach.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR]Windsor Cinelli?
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:42:20 -0500


Dale opined in a 2001 post regarding the Cinelli/Centurion:

"Hmmm. I do not remember your specific query about that..But I would say that , in general, a "house brand" made by a famous maker under contract usually doesn't razz any collectors' berries so to speak. A bike kinda needs to be marked after it's maker to get the big points. In fact the Centurion bikes were nothing like a "real" Cinelli.. They could have just as likely been made by Romani, Atala, Carnielli, or any of a "slew" of Italian factories.. In fact, they most likely were not made by the same workshop that Cinelli product we pay so dearly for came from. They were "designed by" Cinelli (commission paid) and for sure farmed out, as the Cinelli workshop hadn't the capacity for runs that size. "

Given that it takes a 26.8 seat post, that would seem to rule out Windsor as the maker because they used the 27.2 seat post on their Cinelli-esque Pro. Their has been a bit of chatter on both CR and iBOB lists regarding these bikes:

http://search.bikelist.org/?SearchString=Cinelli%20Centurion&Scope=classicrendezvous http://search.bikelist.org/?SearchString=Cinelli%20Centurion&Scope=internet-bob

Dan Artley owns one that he purchased from Sterling Peters.

Charlie Young
Honey Brook, PA


----- Original Message -----
From: "C. Andrews"
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:36 AM
Subject: [CR]Windsor Cinelli?



> In the wake of this auction, I was asked by at least one
> potential buyer whether or not this might actually be a
> Cinelli-made Centurion, rather than a Windsor-made frame.
>
> That seemed highly unlikely based on the details of the
> frame...but, I can't help asking the collective expertise
> here: is this in fact a Windsor-made Centurion? Or could
> it be made by Cinelli?
>
> The seat-post clamp ID is definitely NOT 26.2, btw.
>
> Any and all opinions welcome..
>
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>
> Did Cinelli ever make frames for Centurion, and if so, when?

>

> Charles Andrews

> SoCal