Joel,
It's hard to say what will happen when the time actually comes. I'm gene rally not the "competetive" type. I think of myself as an "effecient" ri der. That pretty much means riding with protection as much as possible w hile still doing your share of the pacemaking and so on. Riding a steady cadence, taking short and effecient breaks as neccessary. In large grou p ride situations I frequently find myself glued to the rear of a steady and fast tandem. I will do my turns at the front from time to time to h elp out. Eventually one can only suck wheel, for miles and miles, and mi les. It's the most effecient way for a single to make a fast time if you have the gears and legspeed to ride that pace for long periods. I gener ally have a gear or two higher than most people on the road. My top end on the AeroTour will probably be around a 54x11. Low end is 30x28. Got i t covered with a 7 speed block and a triple crankset. Once you can no lo nger hang with the tandem you can mosey the rest of the way yourself or wait for the next "train". The main thing is to suck wheel as much as po ssible and still do your share.
If you guys with experience say that's not how the rides go these days; speak up so I know what to expect. I guess I need to start learning how the event works. How, when, and where do you rest or sleep and so on. Is it hilly or what? You've ridden it. How did you go about it?
Brian Baylis
La mesa, CA
ill happily meet up with a cr group in 2007 - its always nice to have
a few more people you know, though youll meet *plenty* of friendly
folk on the ride, especially if youve got an older or unusual bike.
the french and brits especially seemed to give a sort of respect to
those of us who might have seemed a little "off" to those on more
modern race-y bikes.
gotta promise were not gonna chase jan the whole way though - i need
time to stop for food and a tipple every now and then :)
-joel
At 12:05 -0800 12.13.2005, Brandon Ives wrote:
>So it looks like a few other folks are interested in doing this in
>2007. So should we try to get a little something CR going on before
>or after the ride? I've been meaning to ride the P-B-P for quite a
>while and August 2007 seems like as good a time as any. Also if any
>others are up for museum and architectural tours while in Paris
>Mitzi and I would love to drag folks around and give the
>"professional" tour.
>best,
>Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
>Vancouver, B.C.
>
>On Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005, at 11:00 US/Pacific, Robert D. Dayton,Jr. wro
te:
>>Brian:
>>I'm right there with ya!!!!!!!!
>>Looser buys Champagne.
>>
>>Rob Dayton
>>Charlotte NC
>>USA
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
>>[mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of
>>brianbaylis@juno.com
>>Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:07 AM
>>Subject: Re: [CR]Of PBP and Lunacy
>>
>>Lou and all,
>>
>>You know what, that seems to be the reaction I'm getting. Also getting
a
>> lot of support from people in general and more so from those who hav
e r
>>idden and most especially from those planning to ride in 2007. I have
di
>>pped my toe in a new segment in our cycling community. I didn't even k
no
>>w there was a brevet series here in San Diego, but hot damn!, there is
.
>>The San Diego Long Riders. Found out yesterday while talking with Chuc
k
>>Slesinger that they a division of my old San Diego Bicycle Club. Have
ma
>>de a deal to begin motor pacing at the velodrome once a week to keep u
p
>>my legspeed.
>>
>>I will ride as much as I can and do my best effort. If I don't make it
a
>>t least I will be well aquainted with the bicycles I'm building, meet
a
>>lot of new people, see a LOT of countryside, and ride a whole bunch. I
r
>>eally don't see any harm in that.
>>
>>But to answer your question, Lou. YES, I'm crazy. You were expecting s
om
>>ething else??
>>
>>Brian Baylis
>>La Mesa, CA
>>Got a randonnuer bug up my butt. Only way to kill it is to sit on the
sa
>>ddle long enough to smother it.
>>
>>
>>-- "Mike Dayton" <mdayton@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>Snipped: "I read Brian Baylis's recent diatribe about doing P-B-P or
>>similar rides. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.......Brian, have
>>you
>>lost your mind?
>>
>>Lou Deeter, Orlando FL"
>>
>>
>>
>>++++++
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On our local club rides, the classic look has given way to carbon, but
I
>>
>>regularly see vintage bikes on the brevets like Brian mentions. The fa
ct
>> is,
>>many of the bikes we love make excellent randonneuring bikes, as do th
e
>>KOF
>>bikes by Weigle and Heron and Rivendell and others. Their geometry is
>>comfortable on the long haul, fenders and lights and bags are easily
>>mounted, and they can accommodate slightly wider tires.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>For riders interested in putting their vintage bikes through the paces
o
>>n a
>>400K or 600K, check out http://www.rusa.org http://www.rusa.org/
>>al
>>organization for randonneuring in the U.S. The site has a calendar of
20
>>06
>>rides, as well as information on PBP and other long-distance events. T
he
>>
>>quarterly newsletter features vintage or KOF bikes from time to time.
Ja
>>n
>>Heine did an article on his PBP 2003 experience aboard a Herse tandem
an
>>d
>>the latest issue has a photo feature on a Mercian.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On the last PBP, I rode my Silk Hope that is pictured on Dale's websit
e
>>but
>>with a different set-up.
>>http://www.classicrendezvous.com/USA/McLean/Gallery.htm Since this yea
r'
>>s
>>Cirque theme is randonneuring bikes, I may display it exactly as I rod
e
>>it,
>>with a mix of vintage and modern components, including mismatched bar
en
>>d
>>shifters. Look for it, complete with the PBP number plate.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Mike Dayton
>>
>>Editor, American Randonneur
>>
>>Raleigh, NC
--
joel metz : magpie@blackbirdsf.org : http://www.blackbirdsf.org/
portland, oregon
==
i know what innocence looks like - and it wasn't there,
after she got that bicycle...