Re: [CR]Building Classic Wheels on the Day After Christmas - a bike in my case - Update

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Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:46:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Raymond Dobbins <raydobbins2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Building Classic Wheels on the Day After Christmas - a bike in my case - Update
To: john barron- velostuf <jb@velostuf.com>
In-Reply-To: <003201c60a6c$0a5ab3e0$6401a8c0@Velostuf>
cc: Classic Rendezvous Bike List <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

both of my mod 61 calipers are the same reach: 66mm, as best as i can measure, from the center of the mounting bolt to the bottom of the caliper arms (this measurement was taken with the calipers installed). however, it appears that i need a longer reach caliper in the rear, and in fact could use a shorter caliper in front, as the brake pads are at the uppermost position in front, and at the lowest position in the rear. the front pads hit the sidewalls squarely, while the rear pads hit the sidewalls while barely missing the tubulars.

one list member suggested that if the distance i need to drop the rear pads is small, i could try filing the hole, as the casting is quite stout. indeed, it looks like i could file 3mm easily ( which is all i need), without reducing the casting below the hole dangerously. that would certainly be an easy solution to my problem, but before i try it, i would like to hear the opinion of others.

alternatively, if someone has a rear mod 61 caliper slightly longer than mine to trade, in like new condition, please let me know.

ray dobbins miami florida

john barron- velostuf <jb@velostuf.com> wrote: The wheels I'm building will go on a mid 50's Cinelli Mod B that I got from Kevin Stimpson a couple years ago. Paint and chrome by Baylis.

Ray, the mod 61's came in a few different lengths- it was common to have fronts a different reach than the rears. Can you measure them somehow and let me know what you have, or what you need. Maybe I can help.

John Barron Minneapolis http://www.velostuf.com

----- Original Message ----- From: Raymond Dobbins To: john barron- velostuf ; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [CR]Building Classic Wheels on the Day After Christmas - a bike in my case

i've got another good activity for today: i'm finishing putting together a 1967 cinelli model b, with an empty house and lots of leftovers at my disposal. this "b" is the beauty that eddie albert offered to the list about a month ago. i was lucky enough to be the one who got it - thanks eddie for making it possible. i received it (very well packed in two boxes) about two weeks ago, and i've been very slowly putting it together since then. today i plan to finish it.

it is a very, very pretty bike, with a gorgeous paint job by peter weigle. this bike takes care of replacing a bike i regret having sold many years ago, a 1970 cinelli sc. i find the b to be as pretty, and even more interesting than my old sc, and it's the same color as the sc i sold, so with this b i no longer feel the pain of having sold the sc. it's just what the bike blues doctor ordered! if i can, i'll have some photos on my website tonight as well.

btw, this is the oldest bike i've ever owned, and it is the first time i set up universal model 61 calipers. i've only set up the rear so far, and in doing so i noticed that the brake pads, even at their lowest position, are just barely low enough to hit the rim sidewalls without hitting the tire. is it possible that this bike was designed for 27" wheels? is there a dropbolt that i can use to lower the caliper?

in a little while i'll know if i have the same situation up front.

ray dobbins miami florida

john barron- velostuf <jb@velostuf.com> wrote: I can't think of a more satisfying thing than what I'm doing right now: building slightly used FB small flange 36 hole 3-piece hubs to NOS Scheeren Standard wood-filled rims using Robergel trois etoiles stainless spokes. I'm drinking a mango margarita concoction (closeout from Williams Sonoma) and listening to the Beatles and Donovan...

John Barron
Minneapolis
http://www.velostuf.com