John: I am been thankful and happy that has liked mine webpage... It visits and it sees that some types of bicycles exist stroll, sport and competition in the exposition gallery... Been thankful plus a time... Marcelo Afornali... http://www.bicicletasantigas.com.br
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> 1. Re: lambert hub bearings (John Thompson)
> 2. Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 36, Issue 122
> 3. Re: GitaneUSA.com Illustrated! (Jerome & Elizabeth Moos)
> 4. Re: Bikes competition (John Thompson)
> 5. Frame geometry
> 6. Paris-Brest-Paris by Rene Herse
> 7. Re: What classic parts did you find under the tree this
> 8. FS: Mondia Special & Teledyne Titan (Riccardo Bulissimo)
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> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:50:12 -0600
> From: John Thompson <JohnThompson@new.rr.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]lambert hub bearings
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> stephen fredette wrote:
>
>> what kind of sealed bearings do they take?
>
> They're standard industrial bearings, simply pressed into place. Knock
> one out and take it to your local bearing supply house and they'll be
> able to match it for you.
>
> --
> John (john@os2.dhs.org)
> Appleton WI USA
> ------------------------------
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> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:50:17 EST
> From: Crumpy6204@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 36, Issue 122
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> Re, Long reach brakes. had the same problem with my 1950s Vittoria
> Frame,
> Made in Italy I am sure this was built for 27" wheels, I tried everything
> could NOT find ANY brakes that would reach, Finally at Denver Velo Swap,
> Mike
> Kone had a pair of Universal Center Pulls, they have NO 51 or 61 or any#s
> on
> them JUST Universal, BUT they work!!! I also have some Baillia center
> pulls and
> Mafac none will work with this frame, drop bolts seem the answer, UNLESS
> you
> can be luck and fimd as I did Universals, Try Mike Kone I think he does
> have
> some side pulls also that will fit Cheers John Crump. Parker Co.USA
>
>
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>
> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 09:12:32 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> To: cmontgomery <cmontgomery15@cox.net>,
> sandranian <sandranian@yahoo.com>,
> Rendezvous Classic <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]GitaneUSA.com Illustrated!
> Message-ID: <20051227171232.91497.qmail@web81109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> I like this site. It is clearly biased toward Gitane, but quite openly
> and honestly so. Personally, my favorite French bike is Peugeot, but
> Gitane is a very important marque as well, with many TdF victories, albeit
> heavily concentrated from the mid 50's through mid 80's.
>
> I think this highlights and importaqnt distinction among CR bikes. You
> might say there are two major categories. "Production" marques of which
> even the top model had productions of many thousands, versus small-volume
> custom bikes. "Production" marques would include Gitane, Peugeot,
> Raleigh, Schwinn, Bianchi, etc., while the custom bikes would include,
> Singer, Herse, Ephgrave, Jack Taylor, Masi, and US masters like Baylis,
> Sachs, Gordon, et al. There seems to be a segment of the CR which prefers
> the low-volume custom machines and views the production bikes almost with
> contempt, while others embrace the production marques as demonstrated by
> web sites like Retro Raleighs and GitaneUSA.
>
> Personally, I tend to lean toward the production marques, even though I
> own and prize a few true custom machines including a Weigle and an
> Assenmacher. While the workmanship on the production marques was almost
> never as good as a true custom machine, the quality of the top models of
> these marques is still very, very good compared to 99% of the bicycles the
> average person will encounter. I mean, when compared the typical Huffy, a
> Schwinn Paramount, Raleigh Pro, PX-10 or Gitane TdF is truly a superb
> machine. Perhaps we should try to keep that in mind.
>
> Another factor in favor of production marques like Gitane is that they
> had a much greater social impact than the low-volume custom machines.
> Hundreds of thousands, often millions, of people have owned Schwinns,
> Raleighs, Gitanes and Peugeots. These bikes opened up a sport and a
> healthier lifestyle to whole generations. In many cases, riders started
> out with a basic models and later graduated to the top models. I think
> there is a good analology to classic sports cars. Which is the better
> cars, a classic Ferrari Testa Rosa, or an MG-TC? No contest - the
> Ferrari. Which is the more important car? No contest - the MG. The same
> might be said of a Masi or Herse versus a PX-10 or Gitane TdF.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Big Spring, TX
>
>
>
> cmontgomery <cmontgomery15@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Please remember before you skewer me again...gitaneusa.com is a site made
> by a fan for fans. It is history and propaganda (is that redundant?).
> Gitane's ARE the best bikes ever made...>
> Stephan Andranian
>> Costa Mesa, CA
>> http://www.gitaneusa.com
>
>
> One of my favorite lines from Christmas Story: "Some men are Catholics,
> some
> are Protestants. My father was an Oldsmobile man."
>
> Craig "if it ain't English, it ain't squat (to a degree)" Montgomery in
> Tucson
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
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>
> ------------------------------
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> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:15:18 -0600
> From: John Thompson <JohnThompson@new.rr.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Bikes competition
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> afornali@bicicletasantigas.com.br wrote:
>
>
>>> My name is Marcelo Afornali and is responsible for the page
>>> http://www.bicicletasantigas.com.br - Brazil
>
>
>
> Wow! Great site; thanks!
>
> I especially like the "Hirondelle"
>
> http://www.bicicletasantigas.com.br/
>
> --
> John (john@os2.dhs.org)
> Appleton WI USA
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:50:51 +0000
> From: <greenjersey@ntlworld.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Frame geometry
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> Wouldn't the frame with a short rear triangle and a long front end be good
> for climbing steep hills in the saddle?
> Personally I prefer to have a regular bike and get off and walk.
> ray green brighton england
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> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:54:32 +0000
> From: <greenjersey@ntlworld.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Paris-Brest-Paris by Rene Herse
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> I'm sure Matt Gorski who is dreaming of giving his Rene Herse a run out in
> P-B-P is aware of the following but maybe other Francophiles are not.
> The joint "winners" of P-B-P 1966, Demilly and Macaudiere, covered the
> 745 miles in 44hr 21min. Both rode rene Herse bikes. both 531 of course,
> bag supports, dynamo and battery lighting, gears look like huret and Herse
> chainset with top gear of 52x14 and amazingly 8oz tubs. Unlike my
> unsupported ride they had Rene Herse himself and daughter Lyli in a
> following car.
> The following year these two and two others rode Fleche Velocio from
> Paris. The idea is that you ride as far south as possible in 24 hours.
> They reached L'Isle-sur-la-Sorgue due east of Avignon !! Almost 460 miles.
> Those herse bikes must pedal themselves!
> Ray Green, Brighton, England
>
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> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:13:01 -0800
> From: <velorosso@charter.net>
> To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]What classic parts did you find under the tree this
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> Under the tree was "The Golden Age..." autographed by Jan. From my
> wonderful wife, who has always been supportive of my little hobby.
>
>
>
> John Siemsen San Luis Obispo, CA
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> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:45:43 -0800 (PST)
> From: Riccardo Bulissimo <rbulissimo-bike@yahoo.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]FS: Mondia Special & Teledyne Titan
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> Merry Holidays all. Here's a little heads up for you.
>
> An old friend has asked me to sell two of his bicycles. I won't go on and
> on here. If either of them is of interest to you, feel free to email or
> call me 775-345-2771.
> They go up on Ebay tonight, but you can look at pictures now. If you
> need different pics or serial numbers or whatever, just ask!
>
> 1. early 70's Mondia Special 55x56 c-c (measured it twice, yep). Campy
> NR, Phil's w/ SC and Clement 700x25 clinchers. Highly desirable TTT b&s.
> This bike belonged to his dad ( I will give the new owner the info if
> desired). Lightly used, it has an unfortunate little ding in the top
> tube.
>
> 2. early 70's ( when else?) Teledyne Titan 57x56 c-c. Campy NR, HF hubs
> on Nisi "for Professional use only" sew-em-ups. Original forks. I bought
> it from the original owner over 20 years ago & stored it. My friend
> bought it from me about 13 years ago and continued storing it. It is in
> near time capsule condition. It could clean up to show room condition.
>
> Both bikes represent a chance at some choice pre-CPSC campy components,
> etc.
>
> I have just up-loaded a slew of pictures to my Yahoo photo site:
> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/
>
> Per the rules, this is your only heads up. A chance to buy from a
> reliable trustworth seller. My Ebay name is RBulis ( I'll be putting more
> up if I get time today.) Watch ebay. I haven't decided to use buy-it-now
> or not.
>
> Thanks for your time,
> (Richard) Riccardo Bulissimo
> Verdi, Nevada
>
>
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