Re: [CR]Time to Put Up or Shut Up... I think

(Example: Production Builders:Peugeot)

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From: "Steve Leitgen" <sleitgen@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Time to Put Up or Shut Up... I think
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 11:50:54 -0600
To: "Norris Lockley" <norris@norrislockley.wanadoo.co.uk>
cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Norris; Cool TT bike. I complement your skill. Post a quick note on how you curved the tubes.

Steve leitgen La Crosse, WI

On Dec 27, 2005, at 8:41 PM, Norris Lockley wrote:
> I think it's almost two years since I managed to unfangle how to join
> the CR List..but I had been reading Members' contributions for some
> time
> prior to trying to sort out the technology. It's probably about
> twenty-one months since I made my first contribution..and since that
> time I have tried to take part as an active member whenever I thought I
> could make any sort of reasonable contribution to the vast mass of
> knowledge that is already out there. It's been a fascinating couple of
> years...I have learnt a tremendous amount ..and I have made a number of
> "new friends", whom I hope to meet sometime at the Cirque.
>
> In the contribution in which I introduced myself, one of my claims to a
> type of legitimacy for being on the List was that as well as being an
> active cyclist since 1948, I have also been building frames on and off
> since 1953..I think that was the year I broke my duck. Various
> references have been made to my "Bespoke" brand..and I know that there
> are Members on this side of the water
> who have seen some of the machines I have built..and there are a few
> "Bespokes of Settle" over in the States...but only a handful.
>
> At times I have felt like something of a charlatan when holding certain
> positions on contributions to the List, particularly when these have
> been concerned with aspects of frame-building. In an attempt to "put my
> money where I mouth is" so to speak, I have been struggling again with
> this internet technology to try to get some photos of a random sample
> of
> the type of frames I have built, on to the Net.
> Not knowing how to place photos on to a site such as the WoolJersey one
> I have managed to place a few photos on an MSN group site, in the hope
> that any member who might be interested in examining the work of yet
> another English regional builder will be able to browse a little.
>
> Unfortunately none of the photos were taken with a digital camera..nor
> did I have much skill with the Minolta SLR. The photos such as
> they are were not taken with a view to creating a web-site or
> catalogue,
> or any such exhibition or display, but just as a souvenir of frames as
> I
> made them. The best purpose they served was to show customers what
> could
> be made..in an attempt to give impetus to the next "dream-machine".
> Every frame I ever built was a one-off..there were never any stock
> frames or stock measurements...just broad guidelines such as "..a
> couple
> of frames for a world tour " or "..I want something to do a muddy Three
> Peaks cyclo-cross" or "..it's for the 100kms team-time
> trial"...or"..there's this 800km stretch of canal bank I'm going to
> ride
> in France" or even " it's for the Alpe d'Huez stage in the Tour
> Feminin"
> Often the customer simply wanted "...something different..I want it to
> look 40 years old, but I need it to ride like a modern machine..if you
> know what I mean".
>
> Hopefully any List member who might be interested in seeing whether I
> might know what I have occasionally been talking about on the List,
> will
> be able to find the photos at:-
>
> http://groups.msn.com/velomania
>
> Just click on the "Pictures" tab in the L/H margin..that should do the
> trick...or at least I hope so. There are no words of introduction to
> the
> site..it's very rudimentary..and goodness knows why I called it
> "Velomania" except that is what my wife says I suffer from.
>
> If that site proves to accessible I might try to improve it and place
> some interesting frames on it.
>
> I would be pleased to know if anyone manages to access the "velomania"
> group...and all comments would be welcome
>
> Norris Lockley...Settle UK