Re: [CR] FrameSaver vs. Hydrogen Embrittlement

(Example: Framebuilders:Bernard Carré)

From: "Peter Weigle" <jpweigle@sbcglobal.net>
To: "Classicrendezvous@Bikelist.Org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <MONKEYFOOD5JQ35J9eV00001b70@monkeyfood.nt.phred.org> <43B2FC09.5895C459@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CR] FrameSaver vs. Hydrogen Embrittlement
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 16:27:00 -0500
reply-type=original

John, Brazing flux is also acidic, and like the plating solution, is the responsibility of the manufacturer to flush out, and then dry thoroughly. Frame Saver won't neutralize the acid,,, nor will WD-40 or any other petroleum based product. As I stated before, if the frame wasn't flushed thoroughly and dried, and if the residues from plating had already eaten part way through the tube,,, nothing would have saved the frame in question. This probably wasn't the only frame of that make the importer had to replace if the platers were careless.

Peter Weigle
Lyme Ct.


----- Original Message -----
From: John Jorgensen
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [CR] FrameSaver vs. Hydrogen Embrittlement



> Peter & all-
>
> I will have to consult with the owner again regarding the date, the bike
> was treated upon initial assembly. I can also verify what was used. I
> purposefully left the trademark name off as there might be a question.
>
> I was concerned that IF something could happen, caution should be advised
> based on that experience.
>
> It is good to know that your product will not chemically react with
> plating solution residue. Unfortunately for that frame, something bad
> happened.
>
> One thing I did not mention, we were also wondering what if any concern
> would there be with brazing flux residue left in prior to the plating?
> Keeping in mind that there is more than one flux chemistry.
>
> John Jorgensen
> Torrance Ca