RE: [CR]Schwinn 'bent seat tube' P 13

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From: "J Hawrylak" <john.hawrylak@att.net>
To: "'Rich Pinder'" <rpinder@usc.edu>, "'classic'" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: RE: [CR]Schwinn 'bent seat tube' P 13
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:19:32 -0500
In-Reply-To: <424096BF.50309@usc.edu>


The 1975 catalog shows a picture of the "optional high-performance, short coupled frame" and states it is available only in the P10-9 for the "deluxe touring Paramount". I believe the 10 stands for the 10 speeds (2 x 5). Not available in the P15-9 with the triple front. The picture and words appear only for the "deluxe touring Paramount" model, not the "professional track" model (P14) or the "professional road racing" model (P13-9)road

The 2 sentence description for this style frame from the 1975 catalog is as follows (page 11):

"The illustrated 10 speed model is equipped with an optional high-performance, short coupled frame. This option design, first developed for hill climb racing, has been refined the Schwinn team of engineers to combine a truly racing style frame with the components of a refined touring bicycle"

The before and after text is standard for either frame style.

The 1976 catalog has the same 2 sentences, but the picture shows only a standard frame (also page 11). In both the 75 & 76 catalogs the P14 & P13-9 do not mention an "optional high-performance, short coupled frame".

It seems it puts more weight on the rear wheels which should help in hill climbing.

Was the top tube lengths the same for either a straight seat tube or a bent seat tube?

I also thought Schwinn offered the curved seat tube design in a Panasonic made model, the Traveler (lugged 1020 frame), but it may be after 1976. I do not have later catalogs.

It would be fun to ride one of these models to see how it feels.

John "pretty flat in Southern NJ" Hawrylak Woodstown NJ

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Rich Pinder Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 5:06 PM To: classic Subject: [CR]Schwinn 'bent seat tube' P 13

Can anyone comment on the ride charactistics of the bent tube Paramounts, vs the standard tube framed ones ?? I assume the logic of the bend was for racing or time trials - was it a way to get feelings of a stiffer rear triangle ? (I'd not seen any Schwinns made this way before - do recall seeing some british frames with the bent tube though)

Thanks for any thoughts

Rich Pinder Van Nuys CA

(here's an example of the look: http://www-hsc.usc.edu/~rpinder/images/BentTube.jpg )

(from Sheldon's site:
> Seven standard frame sizes from 20" to 26" as well as optional short
> couple (bent seat tube) sizes from 21" to 25".