This begs the question: what are the post '83 guys "still getting done"? In both the "flame" concept and your "still getting done"---doesn't both the flame and the doing that is getting done necessarily relate back to what builders were doing pre-1983. And my point is that some of the doing that was being done is just plain doo. Whereas guys like IF (although they don't do lugs, put an awful lot of skill and love into their frames). And sorry, you don't have the hair to be FoS.
Skip Sinatra
Frog Level VA
>Skip, the KoF designation doesn't apply to lugged steel bike makers from
>the 70s. It's post '83 guys "still gettin' it done"!
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>Chuck "FoS as in Full of Schmidt" Schmidt
>South Pasadena CA