Are Nail catchers the same as what we refer to as "flint catchers"? This name in the UK covers a lot of tyre saving gadgets such as a boot lace or a piece of tape tied between the stays, but are more normally one of the propriety products such as Carlton tyre savers or Pelissier flint catchers. The Carlton came in a variety of designs, either to attach to the brake spindles, or to clip onto the mudguards. I always found these extremely efficient when cycling on unmetalled tracks and apart from stopping many punctures by removing the debris before it could get hammered in they also increased tub life by extracting flints before they could split the canvas of the cover. A godsend in the 60's when tubs cost a fortune. Surely those Tour de France veterans found this when they use to go over the mountains when these were just stone littered tracks. Michael Butler Huntingdon UK
On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:41:24 -0700, "Jan Heine" <heine93@earthlink.net>
said:
> You can also use nail catchers to have automatic tire wiping.
>
> When using those with sew-ups, I had only one premature flat during
> about 8 years of riding (not all my riding was on sew-ups) - the nail
> catcher had bent out of position. However, I had to explain to many
> riders what these things on my tires were. Some suspected added
> brakes... Some riders liked the idea - including future RAAM winner
> Allen Larsen - but their local shops did not know what a "nail
> catcher" was... and I doubt their modern bikes had clearances to
> allow mounting them correctly.
>
> Often, you barely pick up a thorn, piece of glass, etc., and it
> barely sticks to the tread. As you roll further, this debris gets
> hammered into the tire. (I know that many, including Sheldon Brown,
> claim that it isn't so, but comparisons of riding with and without
> nail catchers - same rider, same bike, same tires, same courses - and
> having many less flats with nail catchers, seem to show there is
> something to it.)
>
> Today I ride with fenders, and I have very few flats even without
> wiping or nail catchers. But the tires I use have much thicker treads
> than the Clement sew-ups of old... If I ever ride sew-ups with
> fenders, I will rig up nail catchers at the exits of the fenders.
>
> Jan Heine, Seattle
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>
> >??
> >
> >Neither a game, nor an evil, but a simple precaution. Having lived
> >in an area thick wtih "goat's head" thorns, I can testify that a
> >thorn can lodge itself in the tread without entering the tube. Left
> >there, it clearly has the potential of working its way further in.
> >I have often flicked off such thorns.
> >
> >When I am unable to avoid a dirty section of pavement -- for
> >instance, the spots where traffic has deposited small rocks and
> >debris, I always give my tires a quick wipe-down as I continue
> >riding. In thirty years, I have managed to avoid whirring spokes,
> >to out-think narrow gaps, and to avoid injury by debris.
> >
> >I'd never thought myself a "cogniscenti di gruppo", but if you think
> >it fits, I'll wear it. :-)
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Peter Bridge
> >SDCAUSA
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Sam Alison <sssamcz@yahoo.co.uk>
> >To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> >Sent: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:05:45 +0100 (BST)
> >Subject: [CR]Tyre wiping - a fool's game or necessary evil?
> >
> >
> >
> >I was interested to read Ted's comments below on tyre wiping or
> >'gloving' as he
> >refers to it. My understanding was that should a shard of glass hit your
tyre
> >(or vice versa) the initial impact is what would force it in far
> >enough to your
> >tyre to puncture the tube. If it doesn't cause a puncture on first
> >impact, it's
> >not going to. Therefore putting your hand near whirring spokes,
> >flying shard of
> >glass, and narrow gaps was a foolhardy thing to do with no
> >perceivable benefit -
> >other than perhaps making you appear a "real bike rider" or even, if
> >your style
> >is smooth enough, a "cogniscenti di gruppo".My very much ad hoc and admi
ttedly
> >not statistically rigorous survey conducted during riding with wipers and
> >non-wipers over the years seems to show very little difference in
> >puncture rate
> >between the two.
> >
> >Sam Alison
> >
> >London, England
> >
> >
> >
> >Regular sew-up maintenance:
> >As some of you may have surmised, once I started racing back in '46/'47,
> >I've never owned a bike without sew-ups.
> >In the early years all our riding was done on track bikes and fixed
> >gear. a little later we used road bikes, but winters and early spring
> >was always ridden with a fixed wheel.
> >During the few off season months, we put on clincher wheels witha 64" +
> >or - fixed gear ratio and rode around with our bars reversed, six-day
> >neutralization style, and skitched around in the snow and rain having
> >fun. Sew up casings didn't like snow and frost and mud.
> >Other than that it's always been sew-ups, almost 60 years!
> >Here are some of the basics:
> >The old sew-ups and many today will stretch under constant pressure. To
> >prevent this on our good racing tires we always deflated them about
> >25-40 pounds to keep the tight pressure stretch prevented.
> >Our old heavy training tires weren't so critical, so we didn't bother.
> >Hey, nobody's perfect.
> >If a tire was glued on for the road we would reglue every spring, if the
> >tire had been on all year unflatted and still was sound.
> >We always wiped our tires off before leaving on a ride, and after coming
> >back. That way if something was lodged/stuck in the casing we could
> >flick it out and if there was a serious problem, it could be taken care
> >of before the next departure.
> >While riding we would regularly glove our wheel with our fingertips to
> >knock off any debris that might have stuck in the strip to keep it from
> >puncturing through.
> >Smart riders would always get off on the pavement and then carry their
> >bikes across any lawns or dirt/gravel next to the roadway. The same is
> >true at the tracks and infields.
> >When cleaning your tires while riding, take care not to get your
> >fingers/hand jammed in behind the fork or frame.
> >For the front wheel/tire, do it the same way as if you were going to
> >stop, only just use your fingertips to smooth over the top without
> >pressure. Do it in front of the fork, NOT behind!
> >For the rear, use your thumb as a guide to keep your hand outside of the
> >seatstay, DON'T get it caught between the seattube and chainstay! Gently
> >rub the top of the tire to clean anything on it off. Your thumb will
> >hold your hand outside the chainstay, while your fingers go arount it
> >and touch the tire for cleaning
> >This discipline will prevent a lot of punctures while riding, especially
> >when you have to ride through glass, dirt, stones, infamous triangles at
> >intersections, etc.
> >Don't leave your bike parked or stored in the sun for any long periods
> >of time if possible. Keeps the tires from drying out prematurely and
> >getting overinflated by solar heat buildup. I've seen tires/tubes blow
> >out while resting in the sun.
> >Practice gloving your wheel for stopping with both hands. You never know
> >when balance or whatever won't allow you to use one hand, so it's safer
> >to be versatile. The same goes for stepping out of your toe clips and
> >straps. Learn to use both feet for balance safety.
> >Common sense practices like these are good for your clinchers, too.
> >If you put tires in a car trunk/ boot, use tire covers. If you can't
> >find any tire covers, get some old sewups, 25/28 mm, cut the stitching,
> >remove the tube, and stretch the empty casing over your mounted tire.
> >Cheap, and it works!This prevents the casings from rubbing together and
> >wearing through. Many's the rider driven several hundred miles to a
> >race/ ride and had his casing worn through or punctured! Not a nice
> >scene.
> >This may sound like a lot of bother, but the process only takes seconds
> >or a few minutes to do. Once you get in the habit, it's psychosomatic
> >and you won't even think of it any more, all routine and the sign of a
> >real bike rider.
> >If you're going to ride these nifty old machines, you have to act like
> >they belong to you and you know what they are all about. Wouldn't want
> >the brass to melt and flow out of the lugs because you mistreated your
> >trusty steed and it went into decompositional culture shock.
> >How about a few more hints from some of the other cogniscenti di gruppo.
> >Ted Ernst
> >Palos Verdes Estates, CA
> >
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