In my humble opinion, for those of us that are not professional racers (maybe 99% of us on this list?), standover height is far more important than just frame size. I can comfortably ride anywhere from a 58.5 to a 62.5 cm. road frame, c-t, but it depends on the design of the respective frame(s). Newer, more upright designs with higher bottom brackets, need to be smaller-sized than older, shallower, lower-bottom-bracket-height frames. I have a pretty narrow range of standover heights that I like to ride at this point (about 85 +/- 1 cm.), mainly because I want a certain max. height difference between my saddle and handlebar tops, without resorting to something like a Technomic stem. I ain't as young and supple as I used to be!! It's really all a personal preference thing, but above all you need to be able to stop safely and stand over the bike safely, IMO..... For saddle height, don't go too high. What is too high...? If your leg completely straightens out on the downstroke, that's too high. If your hips rock, that's too high. If you have joint problems, that's likely too high. Otherwise, put it where you feel the most comfortable. Greg Parker Ann Arbor, Michigan
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:48:02 -0700 From: "RB" <2wheelseal@earthlink.net> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: RE: [CR] Frame Size & Saddle Height
I'd like to hear again what peoples thoughts are on this subject. I think it varies between the vintage and modern riders.
It is a known fact that people 'shrink' a bit as they age. This could account for it. I also think that as the knees (and other things) age, it becomes more comfortable, and more confidence inspiring on a slightly smaller bike.
-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of Michael Francis Butler Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 3:36 PM To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR] Frame Size & Saddle Height
I know this is an old chestnut but what do other members think is the appropriate frame size for inside leg measurements. Do you subtract 9.5" from the inside leg measurement to get the correct frame size. Also when setting the correct saddle height do you place the heels on the pedals and pedal backwards without rocking in the saddle. Some people I know measure their inside leg and multiply by a number, I think its 1.08 to get the measurement to set the saddle height.
I would be very interested to know especially as there are many frame builders on the list. Finally I was always advised to ride a 22.5" or 23" frame but nowadays I ride a 22" or 21.5" and I feel a lot happier. Is this old age stoop setting in.
Michael B Huntingdonshire UK
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