RE: [CR]Re-newed interest in the classic steel frame and otherramblin gs KOF, lugs etc etc

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From: "F.W. Faro" <faro@cistron.nl>
To: <brianbaylis@juno.com>, <nickzz@mindspring.com>
Subject: RE: [CR]Re-newed interest in the classic steel frame and otherramblin gs KOF, lugs etc etc
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:56:00 +0200
Organization: Faro management & advies
In-Reply-To: <20050811.094441.16429.349511@webmail06.lax.untd.com>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

All,

Having just returned from a short ride on my only-just-on-topic Rossin Record (83), I find the KOF debate flooding my inbox. Apart from observations on ride quality between the different steel bikes I own, I would like to ask this. What's the importance of lugs, either in KOF definition, or older bikes? It seems to me that fillet brazing requires probably more craftsmanship. And craftsmanship is what it's all about? Yes?

Freek 'proud owner of two fillet brazed, custom built, steel, bikes' Faro Rotterdam Netherlands

PS: now I have to find some time to finish building up the Scandium frame that's been lying around here. Will it ride better/same/worse as my beloved Dave Lloyd???

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] Namens brianbaylis@juno.com Verzonden: donderdag 11 augustus 2005 18:45 Aan: nickzz@mindspring.com CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Onderwerp: Re: [CR]Re-newed interest in the classic steel frame and otherramblin gs

Nick,

Ah, the age. Well the answer to that is generally "older as opposed to younger". BUT, as the new age of lugged steel frames emerges, the age demographic will fall dramatically. Reason is the "mountain bike" generation if cyclists who finally discovered road bikes by accident have begun moving from modern frame materials to traditional and classic frames and materials. Quality and style is always the direction people gravitate if they are really serious. Quality and style are untimately timeless once the trends pass. It's always safe to not compromise the quality and personal character of such objects.

I'm guessing most of my buyers are older, but before long I expect a new crop of interested parties. Everything from messinger types to who knows what. Not sure what I will do about it.

Brian Baylis
La Mesa, CA


-- Nick Zatezalo wrote:


The term demographics probably should have been a reference to the age of the customers.

Nick Zatezalo Atlanta,Ga

Nick,

Each builder's demographics will depend on a number of things. A certain amount on where they are located. Much based upon on what type of frames they build, and lastly how much they cost and what the wait time is.