Re: [CR]Italian Bikes with non frame mounted Derailleur hangers

(Example: Framebuilding:Restoration)

Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 09:07:39 -0800 (PST)
From: "dave martinez" <dmart84815@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Italian Bikes with non frame mounted Derailleur hangers
To: Don Wilson <dcwilson3@yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20060106164154.44063.qmail@web52510.mail.yahoo.com>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Hello Don,

Yes, there were fine Italian bikes made without integrared hangars. I own two examples, the first being a Cinelli SC and the second being a Cinelli Mod B. Both are from the 50s and both have forged Simplex dropouts. Hope this helps.

Regards, Dave Martinez Fremont, Nor.Cal. (the 51st state)

Don Wilson <dcwilson3@yahoo.com> wrote: Is an old Italian road bike (say 40s,50s, 60s vintage) without an integrated derailleur hanger on the frame/dropouts necessarily a low end bicycle? Put another way, were there any fine Italian bikes being made during the 40s to the 60s without integral derailleur hangers?

Don Wilson Los Olivos, CA

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