I don't think they were out before Dura-Ace. I first saw the dropouts on a Fuji Ace. The Ace was all Dura-Ace and came out shortly after the entire Dura-Ace group was available. Say 1975. Earlier Fuji's had Suntour dropouts or a different forged dropout.
Joe Bender-Zanoni
Great Notch, NJ
> I'm trying to date a frame w/ Shimano forged drops. Anyone know
\r?\n> when Shimano introduced forged long dropouts w/ derl. hanger?
\r?\n> They look similar to Campy only beefier. Were they seen before
\r?\n> Dura Ace in the 70s? Scott Davis St. Paul, MN USA
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