Re: [CR]More about pins in frames

(Example: Production Builders:Tonard)

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From: "Steve Leitgen" <sleitgen@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]More about pins in frames
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 15:47:40 -0600
To: oroboyz@aol.com
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Au contraire!

Behringer pinned all his frames and only used a fixture for the fork. I have one of his and three of my frames in the basement. All have dead on alignment.

Steve Leitgen LA Crosse,WI

On Mar 8, 2006, at 10:41 AM, oroboyz@aol.com wrote:
> My message about this was incomplete and might give the wrong
> impression.
>
> Maestro Richard Sachs correctly reminds me & I paste below:
>
> "Pins are not the surrogate for fixtures unless you go back to the
> Drysdale era!!!
> Builders pin frames in sophisticated fixtures and then braze free.
> Whether it's tacked,
> pinned, or both, builders use fixtures, but don't braze IN them. No
> one builds with
> 'pins only'."
>
> I would say that some frames more recent than Drysdale have been used
> with pins only, esp. in England, but they have slowly dissapeared with
> some sort of jigs or fixtures surfacing as time passed. For instance,
> Francesco Cuevas was said to eschew the use of jigs for a long
> time....
>
> It absolutely is true that the use of pins has no connection to VooDoo
> or acupuncture (that is a joke.)
>
> Dale Brown
> Greensboro, NC USA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Angel Garcia <veronaman@gmail.com>
> To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:23:49 -0500
> Subject: [CR]What's Cool/Right: leave the pins in or out?
>
> I recently picked up a Chesini were the pins are visible on the
> inside. Do
> some builders leave them in on purpose, as a mark as to how it was
> built?
> Or, does leaving no trace of them is the preferred approach by
> builders?
> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/NAHMB-06_Richard-Sachs/
> Richard_Sachs_30
>
>
> Angel Garcia
> Verona, IT
>
> snip:
>
>
>> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/NAHMB-06_Richard-Sachs
>>
>> Richard Sachs
>>
>> John Waner
>> Huntington Beach, CA.
>>
>>
>
>
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