Hi All, During all the recent (and ongoing) discussion re. KOF frame builders, I have only seen Ron Cooper's name come up as a sidebar to current Bates frames. Has anyone talked with him recently re. frame building? He must have a couple of pointers after doing it for around 60 years, (I probably know a couple or so - Don't employ anyone, low overhead, and don't paint your own frames). All the best, Phil Easton, Cambria, California