Re: [CR]Survey Says: keep KOF prices where they are...:-)

(Example: Production Builders:Peugeot:PY-10)

Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:47:17 -0800 (PST)
From: "Joe Starck" <josephbstarck@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Survey Says: keep KOF prices where they are...:-)
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <20060313022138.58480.qmail@web52502.mail.yahoo.com>



--- Don Wilson wrote:


<snipped the fat>
> Well, a few people agreed with me that prices should
> be raised dramatically to sustain the KOF builders.
> A
> lot of people disagreed--some with noteworthy zeal.

Of
> course, my favorite responses were "stuck mentally"
> and "an embarrassment to the world." Thanks (I
> think)
> for those pithy, incisive, and well-reasoned
> arguments.
> There. Not one flame. Not even a spark. Just alot of
> bemusement, respect and love.
>
> Don Wilson
> Los Olivos, CA

Don, Unless another listmember referred to YOU as "stuck mentally," you should note that I referred to Bruce Gordon as "mentally stuck," and I stated why.

And Don, I referred to your post -- in which you advised framebuilders to sock it to the rich -- as a post that is an "embarassment to humanity." On second reading, it reads as satire, and if satire wasn't your intent, then your intent speaks little of "respect or love." Be bemused though, Don. $2000 to $3000 frame-fees are plenty for most custom builders; and they'd agree with me. $10,000 to $20,000 frame fees would be swell, and I've written plenty on upping the art-aspect of framebuilding to enter this kind of market, but the gist of your post is none other than to hoodwink wealthy people. In San Diego, Bill Holland has sold $6000 bicycles to plenty of very wealthy people, and he sells likewise to San Diego area fireman. Same service. Same cost. (If he discounts to friends and repeat customers, that's his business.) But Don, to spout off like a punk about adding zeros to sales tickets IS AN EMBARASSMENT TO THIS LIST, ITS MEMBERS, THIS COUNTRY -- ALL OF HUMANITY.

AND AS ASIDE, IF THE WEALTHIEST PRINCE OF SAUDI ARABIA IS SHOPPING FOR A HAND-MADE CUSTOM BICYCLE -- MADE IN THE UNITED STATES -- HE WON'T GET RIPPED OFF AS DON WILSON IMMATURELY BLATHERED. I CAN GIVE SUGGESTIONS TO FIND THE HONORABLE AND SKILLED BUILDERS TO VISIT.

Joe Starck Madison, Wisconsin

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