Re: [CR]5 figure bikes

(Example: Production Builders:LeJeune)

Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:45:51 -0500
From: <joebz@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]5 figure bikes
In-reply-to: <01eb01c64853$1076bba0$6501a8c0@HPLAPTOP>
To: The Maaslands <TheMaaslands@comcast.net>
References: <01eb01c64853$1076bba0$6501a8c0@HPLAPTOP>
cc: CR <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

I think Columbine is at the top of the KOF market and could top $10K for a frame.

In 1995 they were at $5K for a top end frame. See http://www.columbinecycle.com/download/Columbine-Brochure.pdf

Joe Bender-Zanoni
Great Notch, NJ


----- Original Message -----
From: The Maaslands
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:08:00 -0000
Subject: [CR]5 figure bikes


> Perhaps not all CR listmembers are aware of the fact that 5 figure

\r?\n> bikes

\r?\n> are sold and have been for a number of years. Both new bikes, as

\r?\n> well as

\r?\n> vintage ones. You can check out a few vintage ones here:

\r?\n> http://www.copakeauction.com/bicycles/2004-bike-post.html I have

\r?\n> also

\r?\n> witnessed quite a few modern bikes leave shops at well over $10K.

\r?\n> You

\r?\n> can in fact now even buy stock bikes that approach the $10K price

\r?\n> range

\r?\n> before sales tax. Add a set of Campagnolo Bora wheels and you go

\r?\n> way

\r?\n> over...

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Witness what the true Herse randonneur bikes with complete Herse

\r?\n> componentry go for...

\r?\n>

\r?\n> As an example of how high prices, as suggested by Don do presently

\r?\n> work

\r?\n> in the bike business, think about the Colnago President. It sells

\r?\n> for

\r?\n> more than virtually any other Colnago bike (which are already at

\r?\n> the top

\r?\n> of the market with regards to price), but it is not considered the

\r?\n> top

\r?\n> of the line in any performance category (stiffness, lightweight,

\r?\n> comfort, durability, handling...) People are therefore solely

\r?\n> buying

\r?\n> the prestige of the price and the finish of the frame, as nothing

\r?\n> else

\r?\n> would set it apart. Hundreds have however been sold in the US.

\r?\n> Their

\r?\n> sales are also not limited to the hightech millionaires and the

\r?\n> like.

\r?\n> Having spoken to a number of the buyers, I know that they are just

\r?\n> as

\r?\n> likely to be people who have just begun to ride, as they are

\r?\n> experienced

\r?\n> riders who are splurging on their 'last' new bike at retirement.

\r?\n> The

\r?\n> fact that Ernesto can get away with this does not however

\r?\n> translate into

\r?\n> the same possibilities for our American KOF framebuilders. Ernesto

\r?\n> has

\r?\n> built up this part of the market over decades.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Steven Maasland

\r?\n> Moorestown, NJ