At 54, I do list and all of my members creak, but I'm mentally fit and have always behaved well toward other people, animals and Mother Nature. Note to Garth: Please don't knock living in and daily driving your classic car (classic bike tender) around Pebble Beach until you've walked a mile in my boat shoes! JB Froke, Pebble Beach (where all the roving security guards carry jumper cables and 6 volt boosters) CA