Re: [CR]Psst .... What Lugs: Haden or Nervex ???

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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:08:49 -0500
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Subject: Re: [CR]Psst .... What Lugs: Haden or Nervex ???
To: bici_pimp@mac.com
cc: richardsachs@juno.com
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Ben: I said that beacuse there were many Nishikis and other Japanese made bikes that had similar, Nervex-liike lugs in the early to middling 1970s. Notice how the socket that receives the top tube is longer and more material than a Nervex pro? I never saw a Haden set like that at all. I am copying Richard Sachs with this, as he is all-knowing.....

Dale Brown cycles de ORO, Inc. 1410 Mill Street Greensboro, NC 27408 USA 336-274-5959 http://www.cyclesdeoro.com http://www.classicrendezvous.com Giant, Specialized, Orbea, Bianchi, Felt, Litespeed, Landshark, Colnago, Townie and other exotica. National Bicycle Dealers Association Board member

-----Original Message----- From: Ben Kamenjas <bici_pimp@mac.com> To: oroboyz@aol.com Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:00:22 +1100 Subject: Re: [CR]Psst .... What Lugs: Haden or Nervex ???

Hey Dale,

Pray .. do tell !!!!

I have a hard time believing but then I don't know much. My old mate and local builder during the time said they were Haden. The fronts remind me of some Nervex series and as I haven't seen any similar Haden's I thought perhaps they mightn't be.

But from Japan? .... I've never heard of any being used down here especially as at that time we were pretty much a part of the Empire (no, the other one) and very much eurocentric in terms parts and bike materials. What wasn't sourced from Europe was made locally.

So Japanese ... any name or series or manufacturer? Any, pics of others? Sorry if my tone is disbelieving but ... well, Im in disbelief and for a frame from the early 60's (can't prove, but a good guess) it would be a first.

BTW ... got no probs with them being from Japan and if they were I would probably keep it being that it makes it the more unusual and to my mind important.

dom Arigato, onaigashimas

Ben Kamenjas Sydney, Oz

On 25/03/2006 Dale Brown wrote:

> << but what lugs are these? Haden or Nervex ? any series ? > > http://homepage.mac.com/bici_pimp/.Pictures/speedwell/track7.jpg >> > > > Those sure look like Japanese lugs to me (no kidding...) > >

I wrote:

> Subject: [CR]Psst .... What Lugs: Haden or Nervex ???
   >
   > Hey Coolio's,
   >
    > Perhaps cheeky for askin' but what lugs are these? Haden or Nervex ?
> any series ?
   >
   > http://homepage.mac.com/bici_pimp/.Pictures/speedwell/track7.jpg
   >
   > or
   >
   > item # 7228081055
   >
    > I wouldn't sweat till the fat lady sings ...... I might be keeping it.