Wow! Look at those forks! Almost straight as an arrow! Barely rested on a rake bender!
Also, interestingly, this frame also uses a Japanese frame making component..The BB shell in this case. Believe it or not, that is the same forged shell that I used here:
http://www.cyclesdeoro.com/
Dale Brown Greensboro, NC USA
-----Original Message----- From: Ben Kamenjas <bici_pimp@mac.com> To: oroboyz@aol.com; richardsachs@juno.com Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org; ternst <ternst1@cox.net>; Joe Bender-Zanoni <joebz@optonline.net>; David Ross <dlr94306@yahoo.com> Sent: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:48:54 +1100 Subject: Re: What Lugs: Haden or Nervex? e-Richie chimes in....
Cool,
So now I gots a very different frame to what I thought I had. I'll be canning the auction and this japanese lugged, english tubed, italian tips and ends track frameset which was possibly made by an Aussie is gonna get ridden and used by me. I don't know just what it is and I guess I never will ... but now I like it even more, especially as it's history or origin is now clouded !!!!!!!!
Now I need some tips: Im gonna strip the paint (which is partly why I was selling it - too new, too thick, too red) and then I want to reset and reprofile the rear ends. They just stick out wrong for my liking. Any perils to avoid? ... Im kinda handy with a torch and can braze bit. Then, i would like to chrome it ... all of it ... or at least nickel plate. yes flush properly ... what other instructions for my plater?
Thanks Dale, Thanks Richie !!!!!!
Also, Im very close to being outbid on a local frame that a seller
isn't offering to ship overseas. I won't be going for it now that Im
keeping the above mongrel frameset but it is made by Jim Bundy who is a
friend of mine and solid gentleman as well as a builder of many a fine
bike. He's now retired and i'd just like to get my hands on this
frameset and check it out with him. To do so I would offer any
listmember my service to drive 3 hours south of me to pick it up on
their behalf. You pay for the frame purchase, cost of shipping it
(about $85aud and takes about 1 week) and my gas cost. Im a pro packer
of bike frames. It looks like a good frame and if it's anything like
Jim's other bikes it's worth every penny, a beautiful bike to ride and
both honestly and thoughtfully made. Jim's a man of great integrity and
so are his bikes. I may even be able to get a snap of the builder and
the frame too.
http://ebay.com/
btw - the above offer only stands for you active listmembers, if some of you lurker cats from Sierra Leone who want to pay me in yak milk in exchange for helping you deposit 6.5 million malaysian ringets to a belgian diamond dealer ... you get the picture.
anyways, I'm gonna keep the red bike frame, thanks guys for being patient with me.
ciao,
Ben Kamenjas Sydney, Oz
On 25/03/2006, at 3:06 PM, oroboyz@aol.com wrote:
> Maestro Sachs responds: > > "i saw all that.............. > i betchoo they are.... nikko sangyo or similar ..... bulge formed > lugs, popular on factory made frames in the pre IC era. > ........interesting fork crown. > e-RICHIE©T® "
> > Ben: > > I said that beacuse there were many Nishikis and other Japanese > made > bikes that had similar, Nervex-liike lugs in the early to > middling > 1970s. Notice how the socket that receives the top tube is > longer and > more material than a Nervex pro? I never saw a Haden set > like that at > all. I am copying Richard Sachs with this, as he is > all-knowing..... > > > > > > Dale Brown
> > > Subject: [CR]Psst .... What Lugs: Haden or Nervex ???
> > >
> > > Hey Coolio's,
> > >
> > > Perhaps cheeky for askin' but what lugs are these? Haden or >
Nervex ?
> >> any series ?
> > >
> > > http://homepage.mac.com/
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > item # 7228081055
> > >
> > > I wouldn't sweat till the fat lady sings ...... I might be >
keeping it.