Re: [CR]Help with my 74 Raleigh International?

(Example: Component Manufacturers:Cinelli)

Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:37:41 -0400
From: <joebz@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Help with my 74 Raleigh International?
In-reply-to: <BAY101-F3304DE192FFBCAD38D83BCF5C80@phx.gbl>
To: devotion finesse <devotion_finesse@hotmail.com>
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cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Several comments to help.

1) You will probably have to build the wheelset. Wheelsets with clinchers and high flange Campy hubs are usually found with 27" rims. By the time 700C was available, most people preferred small flange hubs. Not to say the combination you want can't be found or people didn't build them up later.

2) The International usually requires exceptionally long reach brakes and even the long reach Campys will not fit. There is the option of a rear drop bolt. a) I'm not sure even the drop bolt is enough b) a Campy drop bolt will be hard to find (I think Sheldon Brown has a reproduction) and c) the front could still be a problem. I would go with the original Wienmann 750's myself and save some money and headaches. Also if you get the hard plastic Carlton hoods it solves your hood problem forever. You can apply the money toward your old logo Cinelli bar and stem! By the way, 27" wheels could help a bit with the brake length problem, if you are willing to put up with the tire availability issues in that size, so a systems approach to these choices is definately in order!

Joe Bender-Zanoni
Great Notch, NJ


----- Original Message -----
From: devotion finesse
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 01:45:00 -0000
Subject: [CR]Help with my 74 Raleigh International?


> About a year ago, I purchased an incomplete 1974 Raleigh

\r?\n> International that

\r?\n> I wanted to configure as an "about town" fixed-gear commuter.

\r?\n> Although it's

\r?\n> a tiny bit small, the price was next to nothing and I couldn't

\r?\n> pass it up.

\r?\n> The current build up can be seen here:

\r?\n> http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/dec/DevotionFinesse.htm

\r?\n> This was my third fixed-gear bicycle, my first two being a 1973

\r?\n> Lejeune

\r?\n> track bike and a 1980's Somec track bike that I built up with

\r?\n> vintage

\r?\n> Campagnolo and steel Cinelli components.

\r?\n> After spending 5 years on fixed-gear bicycles on the streets (and

\r?\n> occasionally the Kissena velodrome) of New York City, I figure

\r?\n> that

\r?\n> ownership of a classic road bicycle is long overdue. I have come

\r?\n> to love

\r?\n> and respect all types of bicycles from the "golden era" of bicycle

\r?\n> building.

\r?\n> My interest in hand-built lugged steel frames and my incessant

\r?\n> research

\r?\n> into components has left me longing for a bike upon which I can

\r?\n> put some

\r?\n> vintage goodies back into full-time duty. I am not in a position

\r?\n> to build

\r?\n> that "dream bike"...or to buy anything new, for that matter...So I

\r?\n> figured...

\r?\n> What better platform on which to build one's FIRST road bike than

\r?\n> a Reynolds

\r?\n> 531 frame with chromed Nervex professsional lugs? My

\r?\n> International seems an

\r?\n> obvious starting block.

\r?\n> As you can see, my Raleigh is far from a show piece. I am not

\r?\n> looking to do

\r?\n> a concourse level restoration here (although that Sachs Masi has

\r?\n> got me

\r?\n> thinking in a whole new direction) nor am I looking to complete

\r?\n> the bike

\r?\n> with entirely OEM or 100% period correct parts. (Is this a sin

\r?\n> around these

\r?\n> parts???)

\r?\n> What I am looking to do is build a classic and comfortable 1970's

\r?\n> bicycle to

\r?\n> be used as a daily rider, without breaking the bank.

\r?\n> Below is a list of some parts I need to complete the build as a

\r?\n> road bike.

\r?\n> I'd love the input from the list here, as I am relatively new to

\r?\n> the classic

\r?\n> bicycle thing and would love to know if you guys feel that I am

\r?\n> making an

\r?\n> uneducated decision as to what I think might be appropriate for

\r?\n> the build.

\r?\n> Being a New Yorker in my twenties, I presently don't have space or

\r?\n> resources

\r?\n> to have a collection of gorgeous vintage bicycles and parts. (One

\r?\n> day...One

\r?\n> day...)

\r?\n> For now, I'd be happy with a rider and subsequently don't need any

\r?\n> of these

\r?\n> parts to be NOS or even that clean, really. More function than

\r?\n> fashion. I

\r?\n> have most of the original Campagnolo Nuovo Record parts: front and

\r?\n> rear

\r?\n> deraillers, downtube shifters, headset and bottom bracket. I got

\r?\n> my grubby

\r?\n> little hands on a clean 170mm Strada crankset and am on the

\r?\n> lookout for

\r?\n> the following:

\r?\n>

\r?\n> 1) 700c Clincher wheelset with Campagnolo high flange record hubs.

\r?\n> 5speed

\r?\n> cassette on rear, 120mm spacing

\r?\n> 2) Cinelli old logo 64-40 bars and 1A stem (100mm reach or so). I

\r?\n> prefer

\r?\n> the looks over the GB which came originaly.

\r?\n> 3) Campagnolo Nuovo record long reach brakes and levers with gum

\r?\n> hoods. Weinmann 900 centerpulls were originally on this bike.

\r?\n> Is this

\r?\n> substitution a bad idea?

\r?\n> 4) Campagnolo NR seatpost 27.2

\r?\n> complete in any condition

\r?\n>

\r?\n> My budget is tight but please let me know if you are looking to

\r?\n> part with

\r?\n> ways with any of this stuff. I am looking forward to getting on

\r?\n> the

\r?\n> road...and coasting, shifting and breaking for the first time

\r?\n> since my

\r?\n> childhood BMX!

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Matthew Bowne

\r?\n> Brooklyn, NY